Author: Chessfun
Date: 10:33:49 02/04/04
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On February 04, 2004 at 01:19:33, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>On February 03, 2004 at 18:06:48, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On February 03, 2004 at 17:48:41, eric guttenberg wrote:
>>
>>>No, I don't think Mr.Walker was talking about something else. I think he
>>>was responding to your larger point, that Shredder 8 is not a very
>>>strong engine, not just your point that S8 handled this specific
>>>position poorly.
>>>
>>>eric
>
>Hi Sara,
>>
>>Just on the subject of Shredder 8's strength thus far I have it at +35-4=23
>>62/140 against 14 other top programs at 40'/40+40'/40+40'. I would expect it'll
>>overtake Deep Fritz 8 on my rating lists by at least 50 rating points maybe more
>>it if keeps up this pace. From the games I've watched this engine is far
>>superior than anything I've seen.
>>
>>Sarah.
>
>Thank you.
>I think you are confirming my statements that the new version is about 50 points
>stronger than 7.04.
>
>Ciao
>Sandro
Actually I think you maybe understating the increase.
After Shredder 8 lost it's 5 game to Crafty which was the last game it lost. I
decided to add the database of those games to my current rating list just to see
how high this was heading. Currently I also had 10 games v Ruffian Leiden.
I get the following which shows an increase of 140 over Shredder 7. There are
still some 76 games to play and it's hard to believe it can keep this pace up.
However again great job congratulations to Stefan and yourself and the best of
luck in Paderborn.
Program Elo + - Games Score Av.Op. Draws
1 Shredder 8 : 2767 61 68 74 72.3 % 2600 39.2 %
2 Deep Fritz 8 : 2683 46 41 165 60.6 % 2609 37.6 %
3 Hiarcs 9 : 2642 47 38 184 56.0 % 2601 35.9 %
4 Fritz 8 : 2635 29 23 455 56.0 % 2592 38.2 %
5 Deep Fritz 7 : 2634 32 26 374 56.3 % 2590 36.6 %
6 Hiarcs8 Bareev : 2632 96 124 34 48.5 % 2642 26.5 %
7 Deep Junior 8 : 2632 43 39 210 57.1 % 2582 28.6 %
8 Shredder 7 : 2630 37 31 290 55.3 % 2593 32.8 %
9 Tiger 15 normal : 2630 33 24 377 54.9 % 2596 42.4 %
10 Tiger 15 gambit : 2628 48 44 163 58.0 % 2572 31.3 %
11 Junior 8 : 2627 46 36 195 54.9 % 2593 36.9 %
12 Shredder 7.04 : 2616 37 29 315 54.0 % 2588 34.3 %
(1) Shredder 8 : 74 (+ 39,= 29,- 6), 72.3 %
Chess Tiger 14.0 : 5 (+ 2,= 3,- 0), 70.0 %
Junior 7 : 5 (+ 2,= 2,- 1), 60.0 %
Fritz 7 : 4 (+ 2,= 1,- 1), 62.5 %
Chessmaster 9000 : 5 (+ 2,= 3,- 0), 70.0 %
Fritz 8 : 5 (+ 4,= 0,- 1), 80.0 %
Shredder 7.04 : 5 (+ 4,= 1,- 0), 90.0 %
Junior 8 : 5 (+ 2,= 3,- 0), 70.0 %
Hiarcs 9 : 4 (+ 3,= 1,- 0), 87.5 %
Deep Sjeng 1.5 : 4 (+ 2,= 2,- 0), 75.0 %
Ruffian 2.0.0 : 4 (+ 2,= 2,- 0), 75.0 %
Crafty 19.06 : 5 (+ 2,= 2,- 1), 60.0 %
Deep Fritz 8 : 5 (+ 2,= 2,- 1), 60.0 %
Hiarcs8 Bareev : 4 (+ 4,= 0,- 0), 100.0 %
Rebel 12.00.01 : 4 (+ 2,= 2,- 0), 75.0 %
Ruffian Leiden2003 : 10 (+ 4,= 5,- 1), 65.0 %
Sarah.
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