Author: Matthew Herman
Date: 10:48:42 12/04/98
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On December 04, 1998 at 11:04:33, Mike Saavedra wrote: >I would agree that for fun, I enjoy playing with CM6000, but when I want to >study my games and play what is closest to a rated game, I get good ol' Fritz >out (CM ratings are not very good imho). I like the coaching, sparring, and even >the friend modes in Fritz, and, of course, the more efficient and clean >interface. Better tree and database functions. Tutorials in CM6000 are cool, but >once you read them, its over. Unlikely one will look at them again. >The engine on CM6000 is undoubtably strong, yet the interface is not clean or >elegant imho. And considering the recent price drop in Fritz and all other chess >software, CM becomes less and less of a bargain. > > > > > > > > > > > >On December 04, 1998 at 10:12:03, Fernando Villegas wrote: > >>Incredible how long discussion are produced because a lack of previous >>definitions of terms, as usual. A very long thread begun about if CM6000 should >>or should not be considered as a serious program just because nobody bothered to >>say that serious programs does not coincide with just strong programs. Strenght >>is now a comodity. You can get strong program even in freeware sections. Do I >>exagerate if i say most of them defeat most of us anyway? So the point is how >>good and workable the database is. It's good to learn openings? Makes things >>easier to grasp your weaknesses? Ches programas are now strong in the same sense >>as all motorcars have wheels. The issue is: what about the rest and the rest >>here is the surroundings, even the GUI. I dare to say that once database >>facilities reach a point of strenght as engines has, GUi will be the next >>decisive point to evaluate. >>fernando All true and taken into account basically with Fritz and or Junior 5 at 50$ and CM6000 at say 25-30$ it is really hard to find a great reason to buy CM6000. The engine (The King) just won a computer chess tournament. However, when you look at the database facilities provided by fritz/junior and the opening book facilities ALONE that is a whole ton better than CM 6000 (i.e. in cm6000 you cannot easily build a new book and cannot import PGN games..) also as you said the sparring modes and coach modes are excellent and of course in CM6000 you can't have variations in the game.. when you save it.. its PGN format is not compatible with some programs (i.e. it is not the normal pgn format). The GUI is a little confusing and not as "clean" as the fritz/junior GUI. All in all Fritz5 is the better program, however if you want a solid program that is cheaper CM6000 is nice.. an ok selection of boards etc.. I would NOT consider it for your main program if you are a master or looking to become one quickly.. however for the range of 1200-1999 its a good program.
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