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Subject: Re: CM6000: just because is strong it dfoes not means is for pros

Author: Reynolds Takata

Date: 11:25:43 12/04/98

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On December 04, 1998 at 10:12:03, Fernando Villegas wrote:

>Incredible how long discussion are produced because a lack of previous
>definitions of terms, as usual. A very long thread begun about if CM6000 should
>or should not be considered as a serious program just because nobody bothered to
>say that serious programs does not coincide with just strong programs. Strenght
>is now a comodity. You can get strong program even in freeware sections. Do I
>exagerate if i say most of them defeat most of us anyway? So the point is how
>good and workable the database is. It's good to learn openings?  Makes things
>easier to grasp your weaknesses? Ches programas are now strong in the same sense
>as all motorcars have wheels. The issue is: what about the rest and the rest
>here is the surroundings, even the GUI. I dare to say that once database
>facilities reach a point of strenght as engines has, GUi will be the next
>decisive point to evaluate.
>fernando


  I'm quite sorry you are incorrect( at least your heading).  The thing is that
Chessmaster does not have all of the features of fritz, in fact no one has the
features of fritz/J5.  However strong players like to have the ability to play
against varied styles of opponents, and to be able to get oppinions by various
different programs, thus indeed CM can have a role in strong players/pro arsenal
of training tools.  Especially because CM isn't just a strong player as you want
to claim, but indeed it's in the top 5, plus it's style is fairly unique.  If
you want to claim that it's Gui isn't clear well that's opinion I like the way i
have set up it's GUI second only to fritz/J5, and i have every program in the
ssdf top 10.  Further though it is yet to be seen, if a program came out and was
clearly stronger than the rest of the programs, i don't care if it had
absolutely zero features, except playing.  It would have a role.  This is not
saying the CM is the strongest program, though it very well could be, there is
in fact a strong arguement to be made for it, it is probably the winner of KKII,
it's won almost all of the 40/2 tournaments on the shep testing page, the (king
3.0)also recently just won a very strong tournament this week.  Further there is
a pretty solid stream of Chessmaster victories being posted here.

Reynolds Takata
USCF Life Master
Fide Master
25 years of chess experience
Owner of all Programs in the SSDF top 10(excepting Gandalf 3) :)



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