Author: Mike Saavedra
Date: 12:13:07 12/04/98
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On December 04, 1998 at 14:25:43, Reynolds Takata wrote: > > I'm quite sorry you are incorrect( at least your heading). The thing is that >Chessmaster does not have all of the features of fritz, in fact no one has the >features of fritz/J5. However strong players like to have the ability to play >against varied styles of opponents, and to be able to get oppinions by various >different programs, thus indeed CM can have a role in strong players/pro arsenal >of training tools. Especially because CM isn't just a strong player as you want >to claim, but indeed it's in the top 5, plus it's style is fairly unique. If >you want to claim that it's Gui isn't clear well that's opinion I like the way i >have set up it's GUI second only to fritz/J5, and i have every program in the >ssdf top 10. Further though it is yet to be seen, if a program came out and was >clearly stronger than the rest of the programs, i don't care if it had >absolutely zero features, except playing. It would have a role. This is not >saying the CM is the strongest program, though it very well could be, there is >in fact a strong arguement to be made for it, it is probably the winner of KKII, >it's won almost all of the 40/2 tournaments on the shep testing page, the (king >3.0)also recently just won a very strong tournament this week. Further there is >a pretty solid stream of Chessmaster victories being posted here. > >Reynolds Takata >USCF Life Master >Fide Master >25 years of chess experience >Owner of all Programs in the SSDF top 10(excepting Gandalf 3) :) Mr Takata, Being a Fide Master, I can see how strength is your first priority, and you wouldn't care whether it had any features, except a strong engine. I'm sure that most of us though, are not as strong as you are. Features ARE important to many of us.Being about a 1400 player, most freeware programs can destroy me (Rebel Decade for example). How fast it will annihilate me is irrelevant to me. I rather have a tool to help me improve my game. Whether I play Rebel Decade, or Kasparov himself will be irrelevant when I get crushed. You would be able to appreciate the difference in strength, I do not. Thus, Chessmaster as a teaching tool, not simply a chess engine, does not fare well against Fritz. The database, tree, coaching and sparring features in Fritz are much more useful and superior to a player as myself than CM's tutorials. Chessmaster does not seem to target the strong players, it targets the mass market where there is more likely to be players of my strength. I haven't noticed Chessmaster having exhibition matches with GM's, like Rebel did with Anand to impress other titled players, and computer chess enthusiasts. I own CM6000, and enjoy playing it occationally for fun and variety, but most of the time , I use Fritz. It's Friend mode follows my strength quite well, and its rated games are more accurate the CM's. Sparring mode trains my tactics. All DB functions blow CM out of the water, annotating my own games is easy, and of course, a nice clean inteface. I bought both programs, I like the CM personalities and enjoyed Waitkins annotated games (it would be great if they offered more games like that!) But if I could only buy one program, between Fritz and CM, it would be Fritz hands down.
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