Author: Bob Durrett
Date: 08:02:08 02/06/04
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On February 06, 2004 at 00:40:43, Chessfun wrote: >On February 05, 2004 at 17:38:00, Russell Reagan wrote: > >>On February 05, 2004 at 15:56:19, Chessfun wrote: >> >>>AFAIK mine is also static. One thing Dr Hyatt wrote which was if you are behind >>>a firewall it's hidden. I know that if I post at say the Rebel Board as was, my >>>IP was always displayed correctly. Even though I use "Zone Alarm" as I'm sure >>>many others do. >> >>I think Dr. Hyatt was talking about a NATed firewall, which is different than >>something like Zone Alarm. For instance, at my house we have cable internet >>connected to a router (little thing, looks like a hub), and we have four or five >>computers with network cables plugged into that. One thing the router does >>(among many others) is that to anyone on the internet, all of our family's >>computers have the same IP address. The router sorts out the details and makes >>sure the right data gets to the right computer at our house. This is >>advantageous to us since we only have to pay for one IP address instead of four >>or five. Now imagine a company that "hides" hundreds or thousands of computers >>behind one IP address. There's no way of knowing which one of the thousand >>computers a message came from. > >Thanks for explaining in terms I can understand. >I also have a network of 4 pc's with a wireless router (flat thing about 4" x >4") ;-). Each pc still has zone alarm and anti-virus software. But again while >hidden behind the network they still all produce the same IP. > >Now it terms of CCC let's someone with 4 pc's was posting bogus messages first >if they post the IP's would be the same from the ID's they used. So again why >not simply ban those IP's. Or at least display them. I have read the arguments >from people who don't want their IP shown. But since the IP is available on any >e-mail you send actually even with a static IP it's easy to find it if you want >to. Sadly, the problem is not that simple. Nowadays, the "bad guys" have learned how to cause other computers to send emails with attachments containing viruses. It could be that YOUR computer is sending out messages containing viruses, completely without your knowledge or consent!!!! Terrible, but there have been numerous recent examples in the news lately. It happens. The truth is that people everywhere, including small and large businesses, are becoming increasingly dependent on the internet. This makes it an imperative that the internet develop effective strong internal defenses to "disease" in much the same way as the human body's immune system protects the human body from disease. Ironically, the hackers are doing everybody a service. By creating problems, they are stimulating the creation of internet "immune systems" of ever-increasing sophistication. The hackers are "good guys" in the same sense that disease microbes are "good guys." When one gets a tetanus shot, it stimulates the immune system to build up it's defenses against tetanus. These painful jabs from the "bad guy" hackers are like tetanus shots. Bob D. > >Ex; Joe posts here and someone wants to attack Joe. All they have to do is get >him to reply to an e-mail then they know his IP if static. So not sure why >posting them concerns people so much. I never had any problems posting at Rebel >as was and know of no others that did. > >>>Also what is IP 127.0.0.1, I assume it's a blank IP but would CCC give you an ID >>>using such an IP?. Naturally they could avoid that and only issue ID's to valid >>>IP's. I'm probably getting over my head anyway as I know little about how you >>>could fake an IP. >> >>127.0.0.1 is a reserved IP address, called the loopback address. Essentially it >>is a way to refer to your own machine. It is useful for troubleshooting network >>problems. If you can ping 127.0.0.1 successfully, then you know you're network >>card is working at least, even if you can't connect to anything on the network. > >Then I assume I was right initially, that he couldn't get an ID using that IP. >I know with dial up modems they produce a different IP each time so assume those >would be a problem to catch, excluding the IProviders name. > >Sarah.
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