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Subject: Re: Another anti null-mover engine position (and endgame study)

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 13:33:23 02/06/04

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On February 06, 2004 at 13:48:48, Jaime Benito de Valle Ruiz wrote:

>This endgame study can be game following the sequence
>
>1.Bd1 g1Q 2.Bxa4 Qc1 3.Bxd7 h5 4.Be8 h4 5.Ba4 Line
>
>[d] 8/3p4/p6p/k2N3B/p7/K6p/PP4pP/8 w - - 0 1
>
>Many engines (Fritz 8, Hiarcs 8, Ruffian 1.01) cannot win this endgame, probably
>due to the well known null-move problem for extreme and rare positions such as
>this.
>
>They just don't find 5. Ba4

You would be correct.


Crafty with nullmove:


               20    44.12   0.01   1. Bd1 g1=Q 2. Bxa4 Qc1 3. Bxd7 h5
                                    4. Be8 h4 5. Bd7 Qxb2+ 6. Kxb2
              time=1:00  cpu=98%  mat=3  n=61620574  fh=91%  nps=1.03M
              ext-> chk=3019437 cap=44203 pp=136195 1rep=111186 mate=17716
              predicted=0  nodes=61620574  evals=14552918
              endgame tablebase-> probes=0  hits=0
              SMP->  split=0  stop=0  data=0/4096  cpu=58.92  elap=1:00

Crafty without nullmove:


                8->   0.54  -1.13   1. Bd1 g1=Q 2. Bxa4 Qc1 3. Bxd7 h5
                                    4. Bxh3 Kb5
                9     0.62     --   1. Bd1
                9     0.70  -1.54   1. Bd1 g1=Q 2. Bxa4 Qc1 3. Bxd7 h5
                                    4. Bxh3 Qg1 5. b4+ Kb5 6. Nc7+ Kc4
                9->   1.45  -1.54   1. Bd1 g1=Q 2. Bxa4 Qc1 3. Bxd7 h5
                                    4. Bxh3 Qg1 5. b4+ Kb5 6. Nc7+ Kc4
               10     1.66  -1.48   1. Bd1 g1=Q 2. Bxa4 Qc1 3. Bxd7 h5
                                    4. Bxh3 Qg1 5. b4+ Kb5 6. Nc7+ Kc6
                                    7. Nxa6 Qxh2
               10->   3.86  -1.48   1. Bd1 g1=Q 2. Bxa4 Qc1 3. Bxd7 h5
                                    4. Bxh3 Qg1 5. b4+ Kb5 6. Nc7+ Kc6
                                    7. Nxa6 Qxh2
               11     3.93     ++   1. Bd1!!
               11     4.56   2.54   1. Bd1 g1=Q 2. Bxa4 Qc1 3. Bxd7 h5
                                    4. Be8 h4 5. Ba4 Qxb2+ 6. Kxb2 Kxa4
                                    7. Kc3
               11->  11.17   2.54   1. Bd1 g1=Q 2. Bxa4 Qc1 3. Bxd7 h5
                                    4. Be8 h4 5. Ba4 Qxb2+ 6. Kxb2 Kxa4
                                    7. Kc3
               12    13.37   2.70   1. Bd1 g1=Q 2. Bxa4 Qc1 3. Bxd7 h5
                                    4. Be8 h4 5. Ba4 Qxb2+ 6. Kxb2 Kxa4
                                    7. Nf4 Kb4 8. Nxh3
              time=24.74  cpu=98%  mat=3  n=23714284  fh=99%  nps=958K
              ext-> chk=1472332 cap=70580 pp=237689 1rep=112404 mate=0
              predicted=0  nodes=23714284  evals=2111936
              endgame tablebase-> probes=0  hits=0
              SMP->  split=0  stop=0  data=0/4096  cpu=24.45  elap=24.74



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