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Subject: Re: Adjudication of final KKK Kup Game

Author: Howard Exner

Date: 17:58:54 12/04/98

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On December 04, 1998 at 20:00:10, Howard Exner wrote:

>On December 03, 1998 at 00:08:28, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On December 02, 1998 at 15:25:48, Komputer Korner wrote:
>>
>>>On December 01, 1998 at 19:00:29, Milton Zucker wrote:
>>>
>>>>It looks like there is still one KKK Kup game which has not been completed
>>>>between Fritz 5 and CM 5500.  Quoting from rule 8 posted on the web page:
>>>>
>>>>8) All games will be adjudicated by the date of December 1, 1998, 12:01 am
>>>>E.S.T.
>>>>if they haven't finished by that time. The start date is February 1, 1998.
>>>>The adjudication board will consist of Bruce Moreland, Chris Whittington
>>>>and Bert Seifriz. Hopefully this board will not have any games to adjudicate. If
>>>>your
>>>>program is ahead, please don't drag your heels on responding as this is a
>>>>scientific test and not a contest. I would have to annul that result if that
>>>>happens, but I expect that everyone understands that this is in the interest of
>>>>science.8) All games will be adjudicated by the date of December 1, 1998, 12:01
>>>>am E.S.T.
>>>>if they haven't finished by that time. The start date is February 1, 1998.
>>>>The adjudication board will consist of Bruce Moreland, Chris Whittington
>>>>and Bert Seifriz. Hopefully this board will not have any games to adjudicate. If
>>>>your
>>>>program is ahead, please don't drag your heels on responding as this is a
>>>>scientific test and not a contest. I would have to annul that result if that
>>>>happens, but I expect that everyone understands that this is in the interest of
>>>>science.
>>>>
>>>>So my question is: How is the game adjudicated?
>>>>
>>>>...Milton...
>>>
>>>Readers are invited to post the PVs from their favourite engines to the CCC or
>>>RGCC. The Adjudication committee minus Bruce Moreland will then make some sense
>>>of it all. Adjudications are not scientific experiments unfortunately. Hopefully
>>>with enough analysis pouring in, we can get a consensus.
>>>--
>>>Komputer Korner
>>
>>
>>Why not use the simpler idea Chris suggested.  Get two operators to play the
>>game out on ICC.  at what ever time control we deem appropriate...  ie 5 minutes
>>per move or whatever.
>
>If this route is taken then the name "Correspence"

Correspondence (Korrespondence in KK code)

is null and void.
>Why change the format in midstream?

It would need a new name like the KKKKup (Kmixed Ktime Kontrols Kup :))
>
>
>  That would resolve the games quicker than an involved
>>adjudication discussion and leaves the programs to their own devices to win
>>lose or draw.
>
>>I can run the KKup version of crafty since I saved it.  All we need is an
>>operator for Rebel with some time... and the right rebel version...
>>and hopefully on a P6/200 so we don't have to worry with handicapping of any
>>kind (I would run with only one CPU)...

Too bad an extension couldn't be granted here. Have KK snare two operators
that would play on with the same time controls as the KKup stipulated.



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