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Subject: Re: Which computer is better for chess?

Author: Thomas Mayer

Date: 17:43:05 02/08/04

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Hi Sune,

> I don't like the comparison at aceshardware, they compare nps directly
> between Diep on the Athlon with one thread and the P4 with two threads.
> I think they should have mentioned that the efficiency of the extra thread
> isn't 100%.
> So I'm left asking, "What does the test show?" and "How much faster is the
> Athlon for Diep?".

well, that's simple math: I don't have the numbers of acehardware in mind
anymore, but let's make an example:

Think that we have 2 Threads producing 200 knps. Now we device that through the
number of threads and get 100 knps... Multiplicate that with a guessed
efficiency of - hm - let's say a conservative 1.7. Now we have 170 knps. So in
comparison 200 knps with 2 Threads would be equal to 170 knps on a single CPU.
So you can do now the same thing with the numbers at acehardware.

For hyperthreading we can now even create a formula how much speed up in nps
would be needed to have some payback for the hyperthreading:

(1+s)/2 * 1.7 > 1  (s is speedup in %)
1+s > 2/1.7
s > 2/1.7-1
s > ~ 17.6 %

So with a efficiency of 1.7 you must get more then 17.6% speedup in nps because
of hyperthreading that you have some payback. If the efficiency is better, let's
say 1.8:

s > 2/1.8 - 1
s > ~ 11.1 %

So with a efficiency of 1.8 a speedup of 11.1% would be already enough.

I hope I have not done to much wrong mathematic stuff above -> it's long time
ago I did it... :)

Greets, Thomas



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