Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 12:38:30 02/09/04
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On February 09, 2004 at 15:36:18, Dann Corbit wrote: >On February 09, 2004 at 15:07:27, Joachim Rang wrote: > >>On February 09, 2004 at 14:59:42, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On February 09, 2004 at 14:52:06, Joachim Rang wrote: >>> >>>>On February 09, 2004 at 14:47:59, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 09, 2004 at 14:23:55, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>... by releasing their processors at the same speed in GHz ? >>>>> >>>>>Intel has the best fab in the world. How is AMD going to match that? The speed >>>>>is largely a function of the process and trace size. Intel's fascilities are >>>>>better. >>>>> >>>> >>>>that is only half of the truth (at best). AMD decided to concentrate on >>>>performance rather than on GHz. So AMD proc perform more instructions per cycle. >>>> I think it would be technically possible to release today a 5 GHz proc which >>>>performs only one instruction per cycle. The performance would be terrible, but >>>>one could claim it runs on 5 GHz. >>> >>>And you believe that a chip which performed 10 instructions per cycle would not >>>run at the same speed given the same trace size and process (e.g. copper >>>bonded)? >>> >>>I think if AMD had Intel's fascilities, they could produce Opterons at 3.4 GHz. >>> >>>I think many facets of AMD's design are better. But Intel's fascilities are >>>superior. >> >> >>No I think you are wrong. 10 instruction per cycle produce a lot more heat than >>1 instruction per cycle. > >No way. The transister count, transistor density, and materials process are >what matters. > >> I think the design of the AMD procs dont allow >3 GHz >>yet (this will come of course with 90 and 65 nm). >>I don't think with the fascilities of Intel AMD would be able to release >>Opterons at 3.4 GHz but I may be wrong. >> >>Who is an expert in this field? > >Tom Kerrigan. There are some others who post here. My understanding is >strictly amateur, though I do have a year of electronics training. Voltage. I forgot voltage, which is very important also (P=IE)
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