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Subject: Re: Why AMD just don`t blow Intel...

Author: Aaron Gordon

Date: 14:33:56 02/09/04

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On February 09, 2004 at 15:28:21, Frank Phillips wrote:

>On February 09, 2004 at 14:23:55, Aloisio Ponti Lopes wrote:
>
>>... by releasing their processors at the same speed in GHz ?
>>
>>As a consumer I can`t understand that. It seems to me that AMD`s problem is the
>>heat issue... so the important thing to do when buying an AMD processor is to
>>liquid-cool it or get some sort of special (refrigerated) case to build the
>>system, if you want to push it to the limit by overclocking ?
>
>Are you sure an AMD cpu produces more heat than Intel, at the same performance
>rating?

Athlon 64 3400+ is faster than the Pentium 4 3.4GHz E (New Prescott CPU) and
runs MUCH cooler. The Athlon 64 3400+ is 89 watts compared to the P4-3.4E's 127
watts. The P4 is slower and dumps over 40% more heat. Way to go Intel. :) If you
think about it.. MHz for MHz the P3 is faster and cooler than the P4.. and
Intels new "revised" P4 is slower and hotter than the old P4. Seems like they
keep taking steps backwards. By 2006 I predict Intel will end up with 386
processors again but running 15GHz and will need liquid nitrogen cooling. :)

Almost forgot to mention.. when you're not using your CPU or doing something not
so cpu intensive the Athlon 64 (if the option is enabled) will clock your CPU
down in steps (you won't notice the speed decrease). This allows the processor
to go down to about 35 watts from 89. I'd love this option on my cpu.. I
personally don't like dumping tons of heat into the air when I'm typing up stuff
on the CCC, checking email, listening to mp3s, etc.

As I've mentioned before the ONLY good thing Intel has going for them is
marketing.. and making crap chips clocked sky is great for marketing. Most
everyone that doesn't know much about computers looks at clock speed alone for
processor speed guessimations. Those people should know however that people
wouldn't have created benchmarks to test such chips if you could just say, "Oh..
this 3.0GHz cpu is faster than this 2.2GHz cpu because 3 > 2.2".

>>
>>I was also looking for a good notebook as I have 2 medical offices now, and
>>buying another desktop was not my idea... but I began to search for an AMD
>>notebook, and... guess what?! It`s really difficult to find one here (Brazil)...
>>there are Toshibas everywhere, from Celeron to Pentium 4, and of course there
>>are the new Centrinos with Wi-FI (from Acer too), but they`re extremelly
>>expensive here... so the AMD processors rocks for chess, but their marketing
>>sucks; I could only find a HP XP 2400+ (2.0 GHz) with DVD/CD-RW and 512 MB RAM.
>>Only one model. No other models or options to compare...
>>
>>Maybe it`s time for AMD to look for an smarter CEO or at least someone to put
>>some fire on the market, like Steve Jobs (Apple) or Lee Iacoca (Chrysler) did
>>some years ago...
>>
>>A. Ponti



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