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Subject: Re: Fx51 Versus Opteron...Considering buy AMD this time some suggests?

Author: Aaron Gordon

Date: 09:40:16 02/10/04

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On February 10, 2004 at 11:45:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 10, 2004 at 00:16:32, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>On February 09, 2004 at 23:27:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On February 09, 2004 at 23:02:58, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 09, 2004 at 22:52:12, robert flesher wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi just wondering the differnce between the Athlon,Fx51 versus the Opteron148 or
>>>>>248. I know that 248 supports 1-2 processors where the 148 is a single
>>>>>processor. The price on the 148 matches the FX51, so could anyone explained the
>>>>>difference. I have been an Intel user all these years but i have heard great
>>>>>things about AMD lately.. Cheers~
>>>>
>>>>The 248 is more expensive than the FX51 (by over $100).  I cannot even find a
>>>>148.
>>>>
>>>>You'll have to go Opteron if you want to go dual.
>>>>
>>>>The FX51 has better memory features, and will run games, and other memory
>>>>intensive applications better.  But for computer chess, the 248 and the FX51
>>>>will do the exact same numbers.
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't claim to be an AMD expert, but I am not sure that is true.  The opteron
>>>has a bus that is 2x as wide as the fx51, or so I have heard.  That makes a
>>>difference in bandwidth.
>>
>>I read for over an hour on AMD's website, and I can find no differences, except
>>the Opteron is 1.2v and the FX51 ia 1.5v.
>
>The only info I recall is that the fx51 supposedly uses a 128 bit bus, while the
>opteron uses 256 bits.  That is potentially 2x.  I would not bet a lot of money
>on that point however, as I have not studied the fx51 at all, while I have
>looked at the Opteron in some detail since I was using it recently...

From what I've read so far I think the Athlon FX and Opteron are pretty much
identical. Bandwidth included.. both have dual channel DDR controllers on the
chip itself. It is the Athlon 64 which only has a single channel DDR controller
on-chip. From the single cpu memory bandwidth tests I've seen the Athlon FX and
Opteron are always close.. Athlon FX usually leading by a few percent (better
chipset I'd imagine). The Athlon 64's bandwidth usually comes in at about half
of the FX/Opterons memory bandwidth test results. I could be wrong.. but.. this
is what I've seen as of yet.



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