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Subject: Re: Fx51 Versus Opteron...Considering buy AMD this time some suggests?

Author: margolies,marc

Date: 15:04:35 02/10/04

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I am aware of a difference between the FX and your vanilla Opteron.
Opterons support up to 8 megs of DDR 333 registered ram in four dual channel (
2pairs) slots.( when 2gig dimms are used, they are only available as 2700 memory
AFAIK)
In contrast, the 51-FX **can alternatively** use DDR 400 in a dual channel pair.
51FX will recognize **less than** 4 megs of ram in this config.

On February 10, 2004 at 12:40:16, Aaron Gordon wrote:

>On February 10, 2004 at 11:45:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 10, 2004 at 00:16:32, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>On February 09, 2004 at 23:27:11, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 09, 2004 at 23:02:58, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 09, 2004 at 22:52:12, robert flesher wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi just wondering the differnce between the Athlon,Fx51 versus the Opteron148 or
>>>>>>248. I know that 248 supports 1-2 processors where the 148 is a single
>>>>>>processor. The price on the 148 matches the FX51, so could anyone explained the
>>>>>>difference. I have been an Intel user all these years but i have heard great
>>>>>>things about AMD lately.. Cheers~
>>>>>
>>>>>The 248 is more expensive than the FX51 (by over $100).  I cannot even find a
>>>>>148.
>>>>>
>>>>>You'll have to go Opteron if you want to go dual.
>>>>>
>>>>>The FX51 has better memory features, and will run games, and other memory
>>>>>intensive applications better.  But for computer chess, the 248 and the FX51
>>>>>will do the exact same numbers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I don't claim to be an AMD expert, but I am not sure that is true.  The opteron
>>>>has a bus that is 2x as wide as the fx51, or so I have heard.  That makes a
>>>>difference in bandwidth.
>>>
>>>I read for over an hour on AMD's website, and I can find no differences, except
>>>the Opteron is 1.2v and the FX51 ia 1.5v.
>>
>>The only info I recall is that the fx51 supposedly uses a 128 bit bus, while the
>>opteron uses 256 bits.  That is potentially 2x.  I would not bet a lot of money
>>on that point however, as I have not studied the fx51 at all, while I have
>>looked at the Opteron in some detail since I was using it recently...
>
>From what I've read so far I think the Athlon FX and Opteron are pretty much
>identical. Bandwidth included.. both have dual channel DDR controllers on the
>chip itself. It is the Athlon 64 which only has a single channel DDR controller
>on-chip. From the single cpu memory bandwidth tests I've seen the Athlon FX and
>Opteron are always close.. Athlon FX usually leading by a few percent (better
>chipset I'd imagine). The Athlon 64's bandwidth usually comes in at about half
>of the FX/Opterons memory bandwidth test results. I could be wrong.. but.. this
>is what I've seen as of yet.



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