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Subject: Re: Here you go... WHOA

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 12:18:45 02/11/04

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On February 11, 2004 at 14:51:42, enrico carrisco wrote:

>On February 11, 2004 at 12:12:19, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>On February 11, 2004 at 05:01:33, enrico carrisco wrote:
>>
>>>On February 11, 2004 at 02:17:46, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 11, 2004 at 02:14:41, enrico carrisco wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 11, 2004 at 00:46:02, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 10, 2004 at 23:42:02, Russell Reagan wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On February 10, 2004 at 13:00:34, Bryan Hofmann wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Here are the results of the different compiled version of Crafty. Your's is just
>>>>>>>>a hair (1.4%) faster then all of the others.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Give these two a try and see how they do on your system. I compiled them with
>>>>>>>MSVC .NET 2003. They were a hair faster than Aaron's on my Athlon 2400+ (after
>>>>>>>hours of tinkering with compiler options).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Without FUTILITY:
>>>>>>>http://home.comcast.net/~r.reagan/crafty19.10.zip
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>With FUTILITY:
>>>>>>>http://home.comcast.net/~r.reagan/crafty19.10f.zip
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Aaron's:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Crafty v19.10
>>>>>>
>>>>>>White(1): bench
>>>>>>Running benchmark. . .
>>>>>>......
>>>>>>Total nodes: 102625951
>>>>>>Raw nodes per second: 1603530
>>>>>>Total elapsed time: 64
>>>>>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 10.000000
>>>>>>White(1):
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Russell's:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>C:\crafty>crafty19.10f
>>>>>>unable to open book file [./book.bin].
>>>>>>book is disabled
>>>>>>found computer opening book file [./bookc.bin].
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Crafty v19.10
>>>>>>
>>>>>>White(1): bench
>>>>>>Running benchmark. . .
>>>>>>......
>>>>>>Total nodes: 89942714
>>>>>>Raw nodes per second: 1697032
>>>>>>Total elapsed time: 53
>>>>>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 12.075472
>>>>>
>>>>>This can't be the FX system..  What did you run this on?
>>>>>
>>>>>-elc.
>>>>
>>>>LOL - My FX51 @ 2.4Ghz...
>>>>
>>>>I promise.
>>>
>>>Did new additions to Crafty slow down its nps?  Mid 19.xx's I was at 1.65m on
>>>the XP @ 2.5GHz.  I'll have to ask Aaron what his box runs his executeable at,
>>>to compare with your results (for 19.10)
>>>
>>>-elc.
>>
>>We've already established that the FX51 @ 2.4Ghz is only 4% faster than his
>>XP2.5Ghz.
>
>It was my understanding that when you were 4% faster you were still at stock or
>near stock speed of the FX (2.2GHz).

That might be correct.  I don't honestly remember.  This week has sucked.  No
sleep, almost at all...

>In my tests -- Hiarcs has shown a 19-20% increase on AMD 64-bit even though it
>has no optimizations.  (This, of course, is clock for clock, vs. Athlon XPs.)
>
>Essentially, 2.2GHz FX/Opteron = 2.618GHz Athlon XP (at the minimum) for Hiarcs.
> The tests I ran were on an Opteron 246 and the XP also at 2GHz.

Crafty is not the biggest gainer.  I believe that title would go to F7(no mmx).
It gets over 2M nps, in the start position.  (This compared to CCC archives.)

DF8 gets only a ~30% speedup over a P4 3.0Ghz!

>I'll have to get in touch with Aaron and see what his take is on all of this.  I
>can't imagine an unoptimized Hiarcs to be drastically different than an
>unoptimized Crafty -- when comparing their 32-bit performance.

Agreed.

>-elc.



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