Author: Chessfun
Date: 16:08:11 02/11/04
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On February 11, 2004 at 18:15:41, John Merlino wrote: >On February 11, 2004 at 17:13:16, Bouddha wrote: > >>Dear all, >> >>What is black best move here ? >> >>1.e4 c5 2.Cf3 Cc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Cxd4 Cf6 5.Cc3 e5 6.Cdb5 d6 7.Fg5 a6 8.Ca3 b5 >>9.Fxf6 gxf6 10.Cd5 Fg7 11.Fd3 Ce7 12.Cxe7 Dxe7 13.0–0 0–0 14.c4 f5 15.Df3 d5 >>16.cxd5 fxe4 17.Fxe4 Tb8 18.Tfd1 Line >> >>[D]1rb2rk1/4qpbp/p7/1p1Pp3/4B3/N4Q2/PP3PPP/R2R2K1 b - - 0 18 >> >>If there is no solution in this line, I think that 10...Bg7 is lost. >> >>I would like to find someone to say me that it can defend black position after >>10...Bg7 and try to play it against me. >>Is someone interested ? >> >>Best regards to all. > >Assuming you play 11.Bd3, 11...Ne7 doesn't look bad if all you're trying for is >a draw. Kramnik and Topolov have played this move to a draw against very strong >GMs (Anand, Svidler and Shirov). Also, it's the main line, so I would be >surprised if it is actually "lost". > >[D]r1bqk2r/4npbp/p2p1p2/1p1Np3/4P3/N2B4/PPP2PPP/R2QK2R w KQkq - 0 12 > >Now, true, very few GMs LOSE from this position as White. The highest-ranked one >that I can find was ranked 2590. But I would definitely say that Black has >excellent drawing chances. Nigel Short lost against Kramnik with 11. c3. But I assume you're talking about the position after 11. Bd3 Ne7 then Shirov lost twice in this line rating 2718, both in simuls ;-) Also Tiviakov lost rating 2608, currently 2600. All games below. Shirov,A (2718) - Ribera Baztan,J (2136) [B33] Andorra sim Andorra, 2001 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6.Ndb5 d6 7.Bg5 a6 8.Na3 b5 9.Bxf6 gxf6 10.Nd5 Bg7 11.Bd3 Ne7 12.Nxe7 Qxe7 13.c4 f5 14.0-0 0-0 15.Re1 Bb7 16.Qh5 fxe4 17.Bxe4 Bxe4 18.Rxe4 f5 19.Rh4 Bf6 20.Rh3 e4 21.Qxf5 Bxb2 22.Qd5+ Qf7 23.Rg3+ Kh8 24.Qxf7 Rxf7 25.Rd1 Raf8 26.Rd2 Rxf2 27.Rxf2 Bd4 0-1 Shirov,A (2718) - Gullaksen,E (2333) [B33] Bergen sim Bergen (1), 10.02.2001 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6.Ndb5 d6 7.Bg5 a6 8.Na3 b5 9.Bxf6 gxf6 10.Nd5 Bg7 11.Bd3 Ne7 12.Nxe7 Qxe7 13.c4 f5 14.0-0 0-0 15.Qf3 Qb7 16.cxb5 d5 17.exf5 e4 18.Qf4 Qe7 19.Be2 Bxb2 20.Nc2 Be5 21.Qg4+ Kh8 22.Rad1 Rg8 23.Qh3 axb5 24.a3 Qc5 25.Nb4 Bb7 26.Rc1 Qb6 27.Qb3 d4 28.Qxf7 d3 29.Bh5 e3 30.Nd5 Bxh2+ 31.Kxh2 Qd6+ 32.g3 Bxd5 33.Qc7 Qxc7 34.Rxc7 e2 35.Rb1 Rxa3 36.f6 Rf8 37.Re7 Bc4 38.f7 Ra2 0-1 Tiviakov,S (2608) - Agopov,M (2399) [B33] Bergen op Bergen (5), 25.07.2000 1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6.Ndb5 d6 7.Bg5 a6 8.Na3 b5 9.Bxf6 gxf6 10.Nd5 Bg7 11.Bd3 Ne7 12.Nxe7 Qxe7 13.0-0 0-0 14.c4 f5 15.Qe2 Bb7 16.Rad1 Rad8 17.cxb5 axb5 18.Nxb5 fxe4 19.Bxe4 d5 20.Bf5 Qg5 21.Qf3 h6 22.Bh3 Qe7 23.Rfe1 d4 24.Qb3 e4 25.Bf5 Qe5 26.Nxd4 Ba8 27.Ne6 fxe6 28.Qxe6+ Qxe6 29.Bxe6+ Kh8 30.Rxd8 Rxd8 31.b3 Rd2 32.Kf1 Rxa2 33.Rd1 Ra1 34.Rxa1 Bxa1 35.Ke2 Kg7 36.f3 Kf6 37.Bh3 exf3+ 38.gxf3 Be5 39.f4 Bxf4 40.Kf2 Bd5 41.Bg2 Bxb3 42.Kg1 Ke5 43.Bf3 Kd4 44.Kg2 Ke3 45.Bc6 Be6 46.Bb7 Be5 47.Bc6 Bb8 48.Bb7 Bc7 49.Bc6 Bd6 50.Bb7 h5 51.Bf3 Bf7 52.Bc6 Be6 53.Bf3 h4 54.h3 Kd2 55.Bg4 Bd5+ 56.Bf3 Bc4 57.Kf2 Bg3+ 58.Kg1 Ke1 59.Bg4 Bc7 60.Bf5 Bb6+ 61.Kg2 Bd5+ 62.Kh2 Kf2 63.Be4 Bc7+ 0-1 Sarah.
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