Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 20:14:39 02/12/04
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On February 12, 2004 at 22:58:48, Nicholas Cooper wrote: >On February 12, 2004 at 17:13:29, Dann Corbit wrote: > >>On February 12, 2004 at 17:06:29, Russell Reagan wrote: >> >>>On February 12, 2004 at 17:01:47, F. Huber wrote: >>> >>>>And Quantum Physics tells us, that not even ´truth´ exists - >>>>at least not a ´single and unique´ one! :-( >>> >>>But if truth is higher than math, then wouldn't it also be higher than quantum >>>physics? If we define truth to be higher than math, and by math we prove that >>>there is no truth, does that mean there is no truth, or that math, which is >>>lower than truth, is fallible? >> >>The thing that quantum physics tells us is (again) about knowing. >> >>Considering the example of Schrodinger's cat, we must consider the cat as >>simultaneously dead and alive. It is a wave function to describe it. Or >>consider a particle. Is it a particle or a wave or both? >> >>Quantum physics is a model to describe this sort of thing rigorously. But like >>the Heisenberg uncertainty principle, it shows us that knowing some things is >>beyond our reach. >> >>I don't think that alters what reality means behind the scenes. It just shows >>that there are strict limits on what we can know. > >Dann, with all due respect, my understanding is that quantum mechanics states >that (for example) an electron doesn't have a definate position in space, not >merely that we can't measure it (as the latter would imply that we just need >better instruments to measure it). It's just a model used to describe it mathematically. We don't really know if electrons are particles or waves or both or neither. >Though of course quantum mechanics is only >the best description we have of such phenomena and therefore is only an >approximation to reality, so I guess we end up agreeing in the end! :) http://www.aip.org/history/heisenberg/p08b.htm http://www.physics.carleton.ca/~watson/410_notes/Modern_Physics/410_Quantum_and_Reality.html
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