Author: Ricardo Gibert
Date: 09:15:56 02/14/04
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On February 14, 2004 at 10:28:00, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On February 14, 2004 at 04:45:12, Ricardo Gibert wrote: > >>On February 13, 2004 at 15:56:00, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On February 13, 2004 at 15:54:18, Mike S. wrote: >>> >>>>On February 13, 2004 at 15:26:23, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>>You can safely assume that those ratings are totally meaningless, if you are >>>>>thinking within the context of human FIDE ratings... >>>> >>>>Within the context of human FIDE ratings, a previous version of Hydra, aka >>>>Brutus, has achieved a tournament performance of 2765 :-) >>> >>>Tournament performance != Fide rating, unfortunately.. Otherwise Kasparov might >>>have hit 3200 more than once. >> >>You're exaggerating. That would mean that the average rating of his opponents >>was about 2800 and he would have to win every single game. This has never been >>possible. > >Did you see the key words "might have hit"??? > >There have been multiple 3000+ tprs. Given the rating inflation of today, it >won't be long before there is a 3200+ tpr. > >> >>For example, a 4 man tounament today with the 4 top players would consist of: >> >> Kasparov 2831 >> Kramnik 2777 >> Anand 2766 >> Svidler 2747 >> >>The average rating of Kasparov's opponents would be 2763, so he could get s >>performance rating of 3163 tops. I don't believe such a tounament ever happened >>and certainly not twice e.g. > >I'd claim 3163 is "pretty close" to 3200... You can claim it, but a tournament in the past where Kasparov performed over 3100 you will not find. That is the *point*. > > >> >>Top Tournament performances >> The highest winning percentages for tournaments >> where at least four of the top ten were present. >> >> 1872 June-July, London, won by Steinitz 7.5/8, 93.8% >> 1930 Jan.-Feb. San Remo, won by Alekhine 14/15, 93.3% >> 1862 London, won by Anderssen 11/12, 91.7% >> 1876 Mar.-Apr. London, won by Blackburne 10/11, 90.9% >> 1873 July, Vienna, won by Steinitz 22.5/25, 90% >> 1867 June-July, Paris, won by Kolisch 21/24, 86.4% >> 1883 Apr.-June, London, Zukertort 22/26, 84.6% >> 1994 Linares, Karpov 11/13, 84.6% >> 1899 London, Lasker 22.5/27, 83.3% >> 1867 Dundee, Neumann 7.5/9, 83.3% >> >>As you can see, Kasparov does not even make the list. I think a 3100 performance >>would be a record. >> >>Check out http://www3.sympatico.ca/g.giffen/records.htm >> >>The most astonishing performances were in match play by Fischer in his now >>legendary drive to the world championship match with Spassky. 6-0 vs Taimanov >>and 6-0 vs Larsen. This will be very difficult to improve upon. >> >>> >>>> >>>>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=1131 >>>> >>>>(this was 40/2h) >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Mike Scheidl
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