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Subject: Re: Multi-Hydra Computer Feasible in Future?

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 11:16:23 02/16/04

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On February 16, 2004 at 13:31:58, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On February 16, 2004 at 12:18:13, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On February 16, 2004 at 12:07:37, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On February 16, 2004 at 11:37:54, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 15, 2004 at 15:14:16, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 15, 2004 at 15:09:57, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On February 15, 2004 at 15:06:26, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On February 15, 2004 at 14:34:08, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I envision a standard equipment rack with 32 or 64 Hydra cards, a power supply,
>>>>>>>>possibly a conventional computer for orchestration, and fans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Do you think Hydra was running on a single computer, with a single card?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Actually, that is what I thought.  What was actually done?
>>>>>
>>>>>4 Dual Xeon 2.4Ghz PCs & 8 FPGA cards (2 per PC)
>>>>>
>>>>>The PCs are probably $5k a piece.
>>>>
>>>>I agree here.
>>>>
>>>>> The cards, about $500 a piece.
>>>>
>>>>$3000 a card at least.
>>>>
>>>>Hydra gets sponsored by a FPGA company called Xilinx.
>>>>
>>>>I hope you realize that it takes at least 10 seconds for Hydra to get the 8
>>>>cards to run well.
>>>>
>>>>So you can never use it in blitz in fact. Something like 30 0 is where it would
>>>>excel at though when having a quick operator.
>>>>
>>>>>$25k worth of hardware, just to draw Shredder 8 ($50 program) on a PC.
>>>>>Still think Hydra is the 'engine of the future'?  :)
>>>>
>>>>Chrilly is good at peeking at 1 or 2 tournaments before people figure out how to
>>>>beat his creation. 1998 nimzo was very aggressive and could win by doing that
>>>>some games and was tactical strong because of the agressive tuning.
>>>>
>>>>2003 he has something even more aggressive. by default a passer at the 7th row
>>>>is worth more than a piece which usually is like 4.2+ pawns.
>>>>
>>>>Note we had a major discussion there at IPCC 2004.
>>>>
>>>>To quote it therefore in the Chrilly language, a passer at 2nd row is worth in
>>>>Hydra about 10 pawns.
>>>
>>>That is impossible.  Because it would _never_ promote the pawn since a queen
>>>would then be worth less than the pawn on the 7th...
>>
>>pawn = 64 in hydra.
>
>I'm not sure why that would matter.  pawn=64, 10pawns = 640, queen = 9pawns.
>All the same thing, when everything is relative to the value of a pawn...

I think that vincent means that queen=900 and not 9 pawns.

Uri



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