Author: Harald Faber
Date: 07:36:01 12/07/98
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On December 07, 1998 at 09:06:31, Bert Seifriz wrote: >>>I noticed that CM 6000 was running on a P133 in a game against Virtual Chess2 >>>running on a PII 400. Hmmm... >>>You can't have these programs running on such different hardware and call it >>>real contest. >> >>Correct. Amazing Genius5 ran on .... P60! And MCP also had P133 like CM6000. >>What is it worth adding programs results on VERY different hardware? Nothing. > >Correct and not correct! You will never have a tournament >where all programs have the same hardware, just simply because >the participants never HAVE the same hardware. You cannot >expect from private people to buy 14 new computers just that >you get the results you want. Noone expected that. >Even the world championship is always played on different >hardware. >So when you stick to your opinion you can shut down a good part >of this forum forever. To make a long story short: You are partly right. But 2 important arguments can't be denied: 1) WCC is played on nearly same hardware. PII-300 and PII-350 are not so far away from each other like P60 is from PII-266 2) when each programs runs on 2 different platform and both are much different then don't mix up and add both results. This is misleading. I have nothing against Rebel10 winning but please 5.5/7 and not 9.5/14. >And all the people who think it is so easy to organize a tournament >at a weekend when everybody has time problems and this and that, >but they DO IT and MANAGE it, and then you come with a lot of criticism. This is not a lot criticism. >Why? For a good reason. >The Swedes were and are testing for DECADES. Nobody says thanks, but all >criztize this and that in Sweden and do nothing themselves. Personally I DO test for myself. The result I'll get will confirm SSDF or not. If confirm everything is OK, if not I'll conclude for myself. >So why don't you guys just take the results of ALL tournaments >during a year or so, count them together a bit, and I think you have a >good impression then about the current programs. There is all there is >to it. OK, I'll try to collect all computer tournaments and results. Can you name a good source? >The guys who played in Clodra/Triptis had a lot of fun, there is no dealer >among them, they do not want to promote anything, and I think they >also are good chessplayers who had some time to observe the playing >styles of the programs, and their judgement bears some weight >apart from all the MHz! Bert/gambitsoft.com No doubt. The comment/criticism doesn't hit them, read above what hurts my eye.
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