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Subject: Re: Multi-Hydra Computer Feasible in Future?

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 08:45:33 02/17/04

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On February 17, 2004 at 11:39:09, Keith Evans wrote:

>On February 17, 2004 at 05:52:51, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On February 17, 2004 at 00:31:56, Keith Evans wrote:
>>
>>>On February 16, 2004 at 11:37:54, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 15, 2004 at 15:14:16, Slater Wold wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> The cards, about $500 a piece.
>>>>
>>>>$3000 a card at least.
>>>>
>>>>Hydra gets sponsored by a FPGA company called Xilinx.
>>>>
>>>
>>>When I recently looked at price quotes for an XC2V1000 part which is apparently
>>>what Chrilly uses I see that you can get some speed grades for under $200 now.
>>
>>Chrilly needs development boards in each computer and add to that a chip with a
>>million programmable gates. 60000 gates is really too little ;)
>
>Vincent - do you have any idea what a XC2V1000 is? Hint it's more advanced than
>a XCV1000E. Xilinx refers to it as a 1M "system gate" part. (You have to use a
>lot of the RAM for this gate count to make sense.)
>
>In the past Chrily said - "In Brutus I use the somewhat outdated XiLinx-Virtex-I
>V1000E." (I think that Chrilly got the part number a little incorrect.)
>
>Anyways I actually used to design printed circuit boards, so you're not talking
>to a complete idiot when it comes to PCBs. I was also the one that told you that
>it was possible to implement killer moves in hardware when you said that it was
>impossible. Now you backpedal and mention how it costs an extra clock or
>something.

Chrilly has worked for years to get it all to work, and the previous programs
all didn't get it to work. So don't bullshit here that it was trivial to make.

It isn't.

Yes it costs extra clocks to do more move ordering because this is a sequential
process in hardware, not a parallel process. Hardware is very inefficient
anyway.

How much for a compiler btw?




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