Author: Keith Evans
Date: 10:52:28 02/17/04
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On February 17, 2004 at 13:39:54, Dann Corbit wrote: >On February 17, 2004 at 00:14:36, Keith Evans wrote: > >>On February 16, 2004 at 20:08:19, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On February 16, 2004 at 18:36:06, Christophe Theron wrote: >>> >>>>On February 16, 2004 at 16:17:46, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>> >>>>>On February 16, 2004 at 13:38:44, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On February 15, 2004 at 13:21:45, Dann Corbit wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On February 14, 2004 at 17:45:45, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On February 14, 2004 at 03:56:09, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>On February 13, 2004 at 11:47:59, Christophe Theron wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>No it is not legal to charge for the software. It is OK to charge for >>>>>>>>>>distribution costs and service, but not for the software. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>There are no distribution costs in this case (you do not have to pay to have >>>>>>>>>>your program available at Handango) and I fail to see what kind of service they >>>>>>>>>>provide. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>9.95 is illegally selling GPL software. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>You are completely wrong. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>GCP >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Thank you for pointing this article to me, it seems I was wrong. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>People sell GPL stuff all the time. Look at this: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0000E3QNB/qid=1076869125//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i3_xgl65/002-9067846-1194427?v=glance&s=software&n=507846 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>$68 is not the cost of media, I am afraid. It's actually rather humerous. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>People also use GPL stuff and do not follow the agreements. There are some >>>>>>>famous chess programs that have done this, for instance. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I did not know you could legally charge any amount of money for a GPLed program. >>>>>>But that is indeed perfectly legal, and even encouraged by the FSF (the only >>>>>>requirement is that you must give the source code for free or almost nothing if >>>>>>you are asked to). >>>>>> >>>>>>That opens new horizons to me. >>>>> >>>>>Are you planning to distribute the Chess Tiger code base? >>>>>;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Absolutely not. >>>> >>>>I was thinking about Linux and other free software and the possibility to make >>>>money by using it instead of an other well-known OS, for local clients, where I >>>>live. It opens the possibility to charge not only for the service but also for >>>>the software and the updates. >>>> >>>>I think that very soon it will pay off (and very well) to have Linux skills. >>>>Also, the french government has just decided to start using free software as >>>>much as possible instead of proprietary (mainly Microsoft) with the goal of >>>>replacing proprietary software by 2007. >>>> >>>>It's not computer chess related at all. >>> >>>Here is a funny thing about FSF. >>> >>>I should be able to take a Redhat CD, and duplicate it. >>>I now call this "Greenhat Linux" and sell it for the same price as Redhat. >>>After all, the whole mess is GPL. >>> >>>It makes me wonder how in the world do they make any money? It seems an >>>incredibly risky venture. >> >>You probably could not duplicate one of their CD's exactly due to copyrighted >>material on there. Not sure about this, but there are many redhat references on >>the CD. But..... >> >>I think that they beat you to it ;-) >> >>fedora.redhat.com >> >>fedora - get it? > >That is sponsored by Redhat. They are tired of doing their own development now, >and want to get some free slave labor. Well what I meant was how could you compete with Redhat if they give their own stuff away for free? You've always been able to download their ISOs, but the problem was that if you didn't pay for priority ftp access then it was sometimes painful to do so. But now they sponsor this fedora project which will probably make it easier to get ISOs. I don't know how Redhat will compete with Redhat(fedora) now that they've raised their prices. Look at their prices for multi-CPU systems. Redhat has actually dramatically raised their prices, and it's all for service. I've used RedHat on multiple machines for years and _never_ called their tech support. The only value added has been a timely and easy to use patch mechanism - at $60 a year it was a no-brainer to pay Redhat for the up2date service plus priority access.
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