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Subject: Re: Last 10 game result for Hydra 2 wins, 4 Losses, 4 Draws

Author: Chessfun

Date: 13:52:04 02/17/04

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On February 17, 2004 at 16:31:36, George Tsavdaris wrote:

>On February 17, 2004 at 14:40:33, Chessfun wrote:
>
>>On February 17, 2004 at 14:31:37, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>On February 17, 2004 at 14:24:23, Chessfun wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 17, 2004 at 13:48:16, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hydra
>>>>>8 x 2.8 Xeon & 8 FPGA Cards
>>>>>
>>>>>Total games 47
>>>>>Stored results 47
>>>>>White 24
>>>>>Wins 19
>>>>>Draws 16
>>>>>Losses 12
>>>>>
>>>>>Results 27/47 = 57.4%
>>>>>Opponents Elo 2604
>>>>>N Opponents 31
>>>>>
>>>>>Rating 2634
>>>>>
>>>>>I see nothing in the results or games to suggest at this time. That Hydra is the
>>>>>end all, be all future of computer chess.
>>>>
>>>>Hydra had quite a few set up problems when first running on Playchess.
>>>>There were a lot of losses on time.
>>>>
>>>>Prior to Paderborn it's rating was AFAIK about 2500 and since Paderborn again
>>>>AFAIK it has lost only one game.
>>>>
>>>>Since Paderborn IOW maybe the last 10 games to my knowledge those results are
>>>>accurate. But jumping to conclusions without basis is IMO pointless, for all you
>>>>know they are experimenting with either hardware or software.
>>>>
>>>>Hopefully Erdogan will post to this thread.
>>>>
>>>>Sarah.
>>>
>>>Last 10 game results for Hydra +2 -4 =4 on Playchess.com
>>
>>Yes seems those 4 games are in the other thread.
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?349782
>>
>>All I'm saying is it's hard to take the results seriously when there are other
>>factors at play. Book moves (see other thread) hardware not being 8x and who
>>knows what else.
>
> You talk like trying to find excuses for the Hydra's loses.


Not excuses, simple facts.
Obviously a dual will win games from the quad.


 Even if Hydra don't
>use 8 x 2.8 Intel Xeon but a 4 x 2.8 Intel Xeon, i could not say this is a
>disadvantage as a quad is already better than most computers out there.
>
> Anyway i don't say Hydra is a little strong or not strong and in fact i believe
>it is on the same level with the others, but also i believe if it
>would be tested by SSDF on a regular PC, i think it would end below Shredder 8
>and Deep Fritz 8. All this of course are just speculations. I hope in the NEAR
>future Hydra cards become commercial. They have for sure one customer. Me!


Speculations based on what a few games you've seen a playchess. As I wrote there
is no basis for a conclusion on a few games. IMO also no need to even post an
opinion either way.


Sarah.



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