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Subject: Re: Using Computers for Correspondence chess

Author: blass uri

Date: 12:01:11 12/07/98

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On December 07, 1998 at 08:52:02, Harald Faber wrote:

>On December 07, 1998 at 08:23:01, blass uri wrote:
>
>>>>I use Junior5 in the championship of Israel and most of the moves are the moves
>>>>of Junior5 after some hours of analyzing.
>>>>
>>>>In 2 games all of the moves out of the opening were the moves of Junior5.
>
>>>>Uri
>
>>>That is s.th. I don't understand. Did you enter the competition as JUNIOR5
>>>(Operator Blass Uri)? That would make sense and make such championships boring
>>>and a computerchess CC.
>>
>>I entered the competition as Uri blass but most of the moves were of Junior
>>and in two games I did not change moves of Junior
>>
>>To be more exact In 1 game all of the moves after theory of opening were of
>>Junior4.6 with 5 hours per move(This game began in january and ended in April).
>>and in another game(The opponent registered late) all of the moves after theory
>>were of Junior5(beta) or Junior5 with some hours per move but I did not use a
>>fixed time per move.
>>(The second game began in May and ended yesterday).
>>Uri
>
>I only wondered what is the fun to let a computer play games and name them as
>own ones?

one of the games was published in a chess newspaper in Israel and I did not hide
the fact that Junior4.6 chose all the moves.

 You could easily have entered as Junior, operator Blas Uri instead and
>would be the truth. Instead you pretend to play on your own.

It is legal to use computers in this tournament so I did not cheat.

I believed that a computer is good enough to play in the final of the
championship of Israel before this tournament.

Now I am not sure about it.

There are 1/2 final 3/4 final and final


I planned before the 1/2 final to play only with the computer but I did not
follow my plan  because I was afraid in some games to do all the moves by the
computer
I started to play when I was in theory with Genius3
I had a bad opinion about theory because I saw cases when computers did mistakes
and lost only because of theory.

I decided because of this reason to give the computer to calculate the opening
moves.

I found that this decision is more dangerous because the computer sometimes can
do even after hours a mistake of not finding the theoretic good move
so I decided to change the move to a theoretic move in one game
In some games the opening was a bad choice for a computer and I had to change
some moves in  positions that it does not understand.

Another problem was that I started with Genius3  and continued with Junior4.6.
(I say that Junior4.6 won 1 game because the first 2 moves were identical to the
game that Junior won Fritz5 in the WMCC moves 3-10 were theory that was found by
Genius3 by search and the other moves were of Junior4.6).

I think that next time when I use a computer I will use it by a more intelligent
way(I consider to use Rebel10 with EOC in the 3/4 final).

I was asked to use only a computer in the 3/4 final(probably begins in 1.7.99)
I did not decide if to do it

Uri









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