Author: Komputer Korner
Date: 12:05:24 12/07/98
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On December 04, 1998 at 13:50:32, Matthew Herman wrote:
>I have a question. I was wondering about the new winboard adapter for
>Fritz5.32/junior5/cb7/nimzo99. How exactly does it work? Does it allow EVERY
>engine? Such as tristram, comet (Crafty was already taken care of).
>
>Thanks
See ChessBase http://www.chessbase.com/
and read below
Posted by CLiebert on December 01, 1998 at 16:30:06:
THE FRITZ-WINBOARD-REPORT, 1. UPDATE 12-1-1998
The new Fritz5 GUI will be released these days. One of the most interesting new
functions is the support of winboard-engines. That means, that every winboard
engine should work with fritz. On principle – lets have a look how it works in
practice. The testet version is still the latest beta - like our first tests
results.
Used Winboard-beta engine: 11-30-98 , 19968 KB
A discription how to use the winboard-engine you will find at
www.chessbase.com.
A lot of winboard programms and informations you will find at
www.cent.co.yu/chess
We checked the following functions
1. Human-Engine-Play
2. Analyse-Mode
3. Engine-Engine-Play
4. Tournament-Play
5. Testsuite solving
6. Infodisplay
The winboard-engines we have tried so far are :
The Crazy Bishop 0042, GNUCHESS, Wcrafty 16.01, Tristram 4.1.2, SSECHESS 2.0,
Little Goliath, IamChop 6.90, Phalanx, Fortress, Olithink, Arasan, Gromet,
Cilian, Zchess, NewRival
THE CRAZY BISHOP 0039/0041
Everything works fine,
no number of nodes
TCB reduces the power of other loaded engines and should therefore not
used for playing eng-eng matches.
CB: may be pondering is not deactivated. To the missing nodes: The Crazy Bishop
shows instead of the nodes the search deep. For german readers:
Kommentar von CB zu Crazy Bishops Verhalten: Es gibt zwei Möglichkeiten, die mir
sofort einfallen. Entweder liegt es daran, daß in TCB pondering nicht
deaktiviert ist. Oder der hat eine aktive Warteschleife für Tastatureingaben.
Das würde natürlich dem ganzen Konzept von Windows zuwiderlaufen. Da TCB recht
kompatibel zu Winboard ist und in seiner Hilfe den Befehl zum Ausschalten des
Permanent Brain auflistet, ist dort wohl eine etwas häßliche Hauptschleife am
Werk. Die Autoren sind hier gefordert! Winboard-Programme sind eigene (Exe)
Prozesse auf deren Implementation und Wohlverhalten wir bis jetzt keinen Einfluß
hatten. Die Sache wird sich mit der Zeit einschleifen.
With the latest beta of the chessbase-winboard-engine and Crazy B. 0042 the lack
of power of a second engine is much lower than before. Fritz calculates much
more nodes/s than before. But it seems that there is still a lack of 20-40
percent. 4 games against Nimzo99 won tcb with 4-1-0 and Nimzo calculates never
more than 200 n/s (without tcb 250.00 –300.000 / K6-300).
GNUCHESS
Everything works fine,
no display of the just calculated move (variants)
SEECHESS 2.0
Everything works fine,
no display of the just calculated move (variants)
WCRAFTY16.01
Everything works fine,
no display of the just calculated move (variants)
produces many log and game files in his subdirectory
btw: in blitzgames 16.01 performs better than 15.18. A first look shows no
speed-differences between the Crafty16_1-Engines for winboard and Chessbase
(eng-format like fritz, nimzo,...).
TRISTRAM 4.1.2.
Everything works now fine with the latest winboard-engine
no display of the just calculated move (variants)
First 5m-blitz-result: 0,5:5,5 against SSEChess (K6-300)
Seems to be nice competitor for humans and blitzgames...
ARASAN
After editing the ini-file (see readme.txt) it works, but he always moves in a
second.
CB: It seems that Arasan offers no time control??!
No analysis, no eng-eng, Testsuites yes but without displaying moves,
GROMET
NO!
CB: this programm doesn´t meet the requirements
IAMCHOP6.9,
LITTLE GOLIATH,
PHALANX
Nothing happens, these programms are causing crashes / newstarts
CILIAN
Nothing happens, displays always „Illegal move“
FORTRESS 14b
Nothing happens, newstart necessary (may be it needs some special parameters?!)
OLITHINK
It works, but he always moves in a second and crashes sometimes
Testsuite: no display, No analysis
ZCHESS
It works, but always moves in a second
No additional infos (writes always –0.01/9 in notation)
NEW RIVAL
Does not start (may be it needs some special parameters?!)
GENERAL REMARKS
The number of engines with the beta seems to be limited. I installed whatever I
have (see above + the professionals), but with perhaps 12 or 15 engines I got
problems (loading not possible). After moving engines in different directories
everything works. CB: possible (may be corrected in the final version)
The playing of fritz32 with Crazy B., Wcrafty, Tristram, Seechess or Gnuchess
shows that it works on principle and that they really did a good job. If you
don´t like loosing against Fritz, Junior, Nimzo and Hiarcs anymore, Fritz32
works fine with the following amateur-engines (minimum!)
1. The Crazy Bishop 0039/0041/0042
2. GNUCHESS
3. Crafty 16.01
4. SSECHESS 2.0
5. Comet A96/97 (CB-Engines)
6. Exchess 2.46/2.51
7. Tristram 4.1.2
Programmers who would like to discuss details and problems should email to
chessbase (see website).
If you have new tips, ideas and tricks how to get some engines run please feel
free to send me an email.
For german readers:
A full report with the latest experiences we will publish in
www.computerschach.de (starting 1.1.99) and in
COMPUTER&SCHACH UND SPIELE
WITH KIND REGARDS
CHRISTIAN LIEBERT
104047,66@COMPUSERVE.COM
Finally some test results:
(statistically not relevant!)
Tournament, 3m/Blitz K6-300
1 Crafty 16.1 6.0/8
2 Fritz 4.01 5.5/8
3 Crafty 15.18 4.5/8
4 Comet A97 3.0/7
5 EXchess 2.51 0.0/7
Tournament, 3m/Blitz K6-300
1 gnuchess 5.5/9 22.25
2 Comet A97 5.5/9 20.25
3 EXchess 2.51 5.5/9 18.25
4 ssechess 1.5/9
5m/Blitz K6-300
SSEchess – TRISTRAM 5,5-0,5
******************************************************
Tournament, 7m/Blitz K6-300
1. FEL 1998
(1. Fritz-Engine-League)
7 Rounds, / Engines, 7 Minuten Blitz, 147 games (general book)
1 Fritz 5.32 29.5/42
2 Fritz 5.00 29.0/42
3 Junior 5.0 27.0/42
4 Hiarcs 6.0/16Bit 17.5/42
5 Junior 4.6/16Bit 17.0/42
6 Nimzo '99 14.5/42
7 Crafty 16.1 12.5/42
Tournament, 7m/Blitz K6-300
2. FEL 1998
(2. Fritz-Engine-League)
7 Rounds, / 5 Engines, 7 Minuten Blitz (general book)
1 Fritz 4.01 18.0/28
2 Nimzo '99 17.0/28
3 Crafty 16.1 16.5/28
4 Comet A97 11.0/28
5 Crafty 15.18 7.5/28
when the problems with Crazy B. are solved it will enter this group
Re: THE FRITZ-WINBOARD-REPORT, 1. UPDATE 12-1-1998 - Frank Schneider
04:10:26 12/02/98 (0)
Re: THE FRITZ-WINBOARD-REPORT, 1. UPDATE 12-1-1998 - Djordje Vidanovic
18:14:56 12/01/98 (0)
Re: THE FRITZ-WINBOARD-REPORT, 1. UPDATE 12-1-1998 - Sam Slutzky
16:37:59
12/01/98 (1)
Re: THE FRITZ-WINBOARD-REPORT, 1. UPDATE 12-1-1998 - CLiebert 16:42:19
12/01/98 (0)
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