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Subject: Re: Using Computers for Correspondence chess

Author: blass uri

Date: 12:19:04 12/07/98

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On December 07, 1998 at 15:01:11, blass uri wrote:

>
>On December 07, 1998 at 08:52:02, Harald Faber wrote:
>
>>On December 07, 1998 at 08:23:01, blass uri wrote:
>>
>>>>>I use Junior5 in the championship of Israel and most of the moves are the moves
>>>>>of Junior5 after some hours of analyzing.
>>>>>
>>>>>In 2 games all of the moves out of the opening were the moves of Junior5.
>>
>>>>>Uri
>>
>>>>That is s.th. I don't understand. Did you enter the competition as JUNIOR5
>>>>(Operator Blass Uri)? That would make sense and make such championships boring
>>>>and a computerchess CC.
>>>
>>>I entered the competition as Uri blass but most of the moves were of Junior
>>>and in two games I did not change moves of Junior
>>>
>>>To be more exact In 1 game all of the moves after theory of opening were of
>>>Junior4.6 with 5 hours per move(This game began in january and ended in April).
>>>and in another game(The opponent registered late) all of the moves after theory
>>>were of Junior5(beta) or Junior5 with some hours per move but I did not use a
>>>fixed time per move.
>>>(The second game began in May and ended yesterday).
>>>Uri
>>
>>I only wondered what is the fun to let a computer play games and name them as
>>own ones?
>
>one of the games was published in a chess newspaper in Israel and I did not hide
>the fact that Junior4.6 chose all the moves.
>
> You could easily have entered as Junior, operator Blas Uri instead and
>>would be the truth. Instead you pretend to play on your own.
>
>It is legal to use computers in this tournament so I did not cheat.
>
>I believed that a computer is good enough to play in the final of the
>championship of Israel before this tournament.
>
>Now I am not sure about it.
>
>There are 1/2 final 3/4 final and final
>
>
>I planned before the 1/2 final to play only with the computer but I did not
>follow my plan  because I was afraid in some games to do all the moves by the
>computer
>I started to play when I was in theory with Genius3
>I had a bad opinion about theory because I saw cases when computers did mistakes
>and lost only because of theory.
>
>I decided because of this reason to give the computer to calculate the opening
>moves.
>
>I found that this decision is more dangerous because the computer sometimes can
>do even after hours a mistake of not finding the theoretic good move
>so I decided to change the move to a theoretic move in one game
>In some games the opening was a bad choice for a computer and I had to change
>some moves in  positions that it does not understand.
>
>Another problem was that I started with Genius3  and continued with Junior4.6.
>(I say that Junior4.6 won 1 game because the first 2 moves were identical to the
>game that Junior won Fritz5 in the WMCC moves 3-10 were theory that was found by
>Genius3 by search and the other moves were of Junior4.6).
>
>I think that next time when I use a computer I will use it by a more intelligent
>way(I consider to use Rebel10 with EOC in the 3/4 final).

I hope that there will be more programs that can use EOC before 1.7.99

Uri

>
>I was asked to use only a computer in the 3/4 final(probably begins in 1.7.99)
>I did not decide if to do it
>
>Uri



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