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Subject: Typo Correction

Author: Bob Durrett

Date: 12:49:15 02/18/04

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On February 18, 2004 at 15:46:06, Bob Durrett wrote:

>On February 18, 2004 at 13:42:37, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On February 18, 2004 at 11:15:28, Bob Durrett wrote:
>>[snip]
>>>Anthony, sometimes programmers look down their noses at hardware people like me.
>>> But if there were no hardware, programmers would be as helpless as a newborn
>>>baby.  There is more that is worthy than just programming.
>>
>>Will Rogers said it best:
>>"Everyone is ignorant, only in different areas."
>>
>>Something like "What caused the space shuttle explosion?"  Probably can't be
>>answered in one sentence.  Similarly, the contrasts and similarities between
>>hardware and firmware and software development are intricate issues and
>>difficult to explain.
>>
>>A lot of people are going to respond to the hype of the whole Hydra thing, which
>>is fine.  It *is* an interesting chess development (even if the chief developer
>>is a bit of a loon).  I think the real frustration is that explaining 'why the
>>hype is hype' is not comprehended.
>>
>>Here is what we have with Hydra:
>>A very interesting chess machine that could very well be the strongest chess
>>playing engine that money can buy ( if you have a big enough pile of money ).
>>But in a few years the investment may look foolish as the software approach will
>>be faster.
>>
>>So, if you have a big pile of money, you want to win all the time now, and you
>>are not afraid of some "early development issues" go ahead and buy a cluster of
>>PC's and a load of Hydra boards.
>
>Let me put a more positive spin on the Hydra "thingie":
>
>Hydra is a "wake up call."   [Is this hype?]
>
>Hydra shows us that there is more to "computer chess" than writing code for
>general purpose machines, like the PC.  Hydra is a "special purpose machine."
>It is not a "general purpose machine."  There is a big difference because much
>of the information about general purpose machines, and their architectures, may
>not be applicable at all to the special purpose machine.
>
>Hydra promises the future because it shows the way to produce extremely strong
>"research grade" machines which can be used for chess research.  [More hype?]
>
>I can see that a super-strong chess-playing machine might be useful even if it
>might be too expensive for an ordinary individual consumer to purchase.  There
>are many extremely expensive and huge computers in existence today, some of
>which are used for research.  It's not like it hasn't been done already, except
>just not for chess.  Incidentally, not all of the big machines are "general
>purpose" machines.
>
>One of the first things a programming student in College must learn is the
>"architecture" of the machine he/she is to use for programming.  That's why
>Computer Science Departments in universities offer courses in computer
>architecture.  Later, when the student graduates and goes into industry [or
>starts a new business] to do programming, it is again necessary to become
>familiar with the hardware on which the programs will run.  The programmer will
>likely not be expected to create a new machine from scratch and is typically not
>trained to do so.
>
>It is therefore very common that programmers everywhere are very familiar with
>the hardware which affects them.
>
>Most Computer Science students are ***NOT*** trained to design hardware.  The Engineering
>Department in a university is preoccupied with training students in the skills
>of design.  Nowadays, with hardware, firmware, and software integrated in
>systems, the design task is not just limited to hardware anymore.
>
>When we are talking about machines whose purpose is highly specialized, much or
>all of the information about architectures of run-of-the-mill general purpose
>computers is irrelevant.  Hydra makes is an example, although the Hydra
>designers still allowed themselves to be dependent on PCs.



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