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Subject: Re: Multi-Hydra Computer Feasible in Future?

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 10:29:56 02/19/04

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On February 18, 2004 at 21:32:03, Bob Durrett wrote:
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>Either you, Dann, or Bob Hyatt said something about whether or not a particular
>block of code might be well suited to "hardware-izing."  The idea is that
>certain blocks of code could be easily "hardware-ized" and other blocks of code
>would be hard to "hardware-ize."

That's the standard approach.  No hardware solution ever has been pure hardware.
 You also have to write software infrastructure.

>Perhaps the better approach would be to break up the chess engine into
>functions, and measure percentage of microprocessor time used for each function.

They call that "profiling" and every chess author does it.

> There would, surely, be many ways to decompose the overall "chess engine
>function" into a set of sub-functions, and perhaps some innovativeness would
>help to make sure most of the small functions were well suited to
>"hardware-izing."  Those that were not would require that the engine designer
>select alternatives to get around the difficulties.  All this might take some
>effort.

Suitablity for hardware will depend largely on the task.  If it is easy to write
a circuit to perform a task, then it is more suitable to create a hardware
solution.

>Your idea of working mainly on eliminating "bottlenecks" seems a good idea too.

It's the only logical way to proceed.  BTW, they have been doing that since the
1950's.

>I still see the potential for enormous gains in engine strength, at least
>hypothetically.  The proof would be in "the pudding," of course.  Only when the
>hardware were built and tested would the performance gain be measured and
>understood.

I think that Deep Blue, Hydra and other systems have already proven the concept.
 We don't need to guess to know if it works or not.

>Hydra may, indeed, be just a "flash in the pan," but you must admit that Hydra
>winning Paderborne should have raised a few eyebrows.  Someone would have to be
>really insensitive to not be at least a bit pulsed.

I think it is an interesting development.  It's not a revolution by any stretch
of the imagination.  It's an old technique, revived once again.  Tying a pretty
blue marketing bow on top isn't new either.



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