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Subject: Evans Comments + other positions

Author: John Merlino

Date: 16:34:19 02/21/04

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On February 21, 2004 at 08:00:20, Mike Byrne wrote:

>[Event "New York"]
>[Site "New York"]
>[Date "1947.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Evans, L."]
>[Black "Pilnick, C."]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "C13"]
>[PlyCount "57"]
>[EventDate "1947.??.??"]
>
>1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bg5 Be7 5. Bxf6 Bxf6 6. e5 Be7 7. Qg4 O-O 8.
>O-O-O c5 9. h4 cxd4 10. Nce2 Nc6 11. f4 Qa5 12. Kb1 d3 13. cxd3 Bd7 14. Rh3
>Rac8 15. Rg3 g6 16. d4 b5 17. h5 Nb4 18. a3 Nc6 19. hxg6 fxg6 20. Nc3 b4 21.
>Bd3 Be8 22. Nf3 bxa3 23. Qxe6+ Bf7 24. Bxg6 axb2 25. Bxh7+ Kh8 26. Qh6 Qa1+ 27.
>Kc2 b1=Q+ 28. Rxb1 Nb4+ 29. Kd1 1-0
>
>Evans,L - Pilnick,C
>[d]2r2rk1/p3bb1p/2n1Q1p1/q2pP3/3P1P2/p1NB1NR1/1P4P1/1K1R4 w - - 0 24

I asked Larry about this position, and he said the following:

------------
Our game was played in New York in the Marshall Club Championship and brought me
worldwide attention (Larry was 17 or 18 years old at the time -- jm). I don't
remember how long it took to find 23.Qxe6+! (maybe 20 minutes) but I had to work
out the follow-up 24.Bxg6! before making it.
In one of the key variations I had to find Be8! to prevent Black's king from
escaping before embarking on the combination.
------------

So, 20 minutes to play 23.Qxe6+ in this position:

[D]2r1brk1/p3b2p/2n1p1p1/q2pP3/3P1PQ1/p1NB1NR1/1P4P1/1K1R4 w - - 0 23

And, even more stunning (IMO), is the move right before it -- 22.Nf3! in this
position:

[D]2r1brk1/p3b2p/2n1p1p1/q2pP3/1p1P1PQ1/P1NB2R1/1P4P1/1K1R2N1 w - - 0 22

Do any engines find either of these moves in a reasonable time and with a
reasonable score for White?

CM9000 (SKR personality on a P4-2.4) won't find 22.Nf3 at all, preferring f5
with a slightly positive score for White:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/3	0.72	1476		22.axb4 Bxb4 23.Qxe6+ Bf7
0:00	1/4	-0.15	4994		22.axb4 Bxb4 23.Bc2 Nd8
0:00	1/5	-0.24	19170		22.axb4 Bxb4 23.Bc2 Nd8 24.Nge2
0:00	1/5	0.08	86168		22.f5 Nxe5 23.dxe5 bxc3 24.fxg6
					c2+ 25.Bxc2
0:01	1/6	0.32	152790		22.f5 exf5 23.Bxf5 Rd8 24.axb4
					Bxb4 25.Be6+ Kh8
0:02	1/7	0.45	364661		22.f5 exf5 23.Bxf5 Rd8 24.axb4
					Nxb4 25.Be6+ Kh8 26.Rf3
0:04	1/8	0.36	752921		22.f5 exf5 23.Bxf5 Rd8 24.axb4
					Nxb4 25.Rf1 Kh8
0:12	1/9	0.11	2017066		22.f5 exf5 23.Bxf5 Rd8 24.axb4
					Nxb4 25.Rf3 Kh8 26.Be6 Qa6
0:48	1/10	0.25	8542046		22.f5 exf5 23.Bxf5 Rd8 24.axb4
					Nxb4 25.Qh3 Qa6 26.Nge2 Kh8 27.Rh1
1:54	1/11	0.20	20920661	22.f5 exf5 23.Bxf5 Rd8 24.axb4
					Nxb4 25.Be6+ Kh8 26.Rf3 Ba4 27.Rc1
					Bb5 28.Nge2

As for 23.Qxe6+, here is what The King says:

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/4	-1.84	33946		23.Rh1 axb2 24.Qxe6+ Bf7 25.Qh3
					Qa1+ 26.Kc2
0:00	1/4	-1.49	57396		23.Qh5 axb2 24.Bxg6 Qa1+ 25.Kc2
0:00	1/5	-2.29	110983		23.Qh5 axb2 24.Bxg6 Qa1+ 25.Kc2
					Bxg6+ 26.Rxg6+ Kh8 27.Kd2 Nxd4
					28.Nxd4 Rxc3
0:00	1/5	-1.88	147801		23.Qxe6+ Bf7 24.Qd7 axb2 25.Na2
					Qa3 26.Bb5
0:01	1/6	-2.83	261327		23.Qxe6+ Bf7 24.Qg4 axb2 25.e6
					Qa1+ 26.Kc2 Nxd4+ 27.Nxd4 Rxc3+
					28.Kd2 Qc1+ 29.Ke1
0:03	1/6	-2.80	570718		23.Na2 axb2 24.Bc2 Nb4 25.Bb3 Bd7
					26.Ng5
0:04	1/7	-3.28	789459		23.Na2 axb2 24.Bc2 Nb4 25.Bb3 Rc3
					26.Qxe6+ Rf7 27.Rxg6+ hxg6 28.Qxg6+
					Kf8
0:12	1/7	-2.92	2042265		23.f5 axb2 24.fxg6 Qa1+ 25.Kc2
					Nxd4+ 26.Kd2 b1=N+ 27.Nxb1 Nxf3+
					28.Rxf3 Qb2+ 29.Ke1 Qxe5+ 30.Kf1
					Rxf3+ 31.gxf3
0:24	1/8	-2.77	4122107		23.f5 axb2 24.fxg6 Qa1+ 25.Kc2
					Nxd4+ 26.Kd2 b1=N+ 27.Nxb1 Nxf3+
					28.Rxf3 Qb2+ 29.Ke1 Qxe5+ 30.Kf1
					Rxf3+ 31.gxf3 hxg6 32.Bxg6
1:13	1/9	-2.89	12648650	23.f5 Nxe5 24.Nxe5 axb2 25.Na2
					Rc1+ 26.Rxc1 Qxa2+ 27.Kxa2 bxc1=Q
					28.fxg6 Rf2+ 29.Be2
3:15	1/10	-3.04	35163021	23.f5 exf5 24.Bxf5 Rb8 25.Ne1 Kh8
					26.Bc8 Rxb2+ 27.Kc1 Rff2 28.Be6 Nb4
4:35	1/10	-1.51	50598471	23.Qxe6+ Bf7 24.Bxg6 Bxe6 25.Bxh7+
					Kh8 26.Rh1 Bh4 27.Rxh4 Rxf4 28.Rxf4
					axb2 29.Kxb2 Rb8+ 30.Kc2 Qa1

jm



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