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Subject: Re: Shredder 8 Bug (probably already known)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 12:02:47 02/23/04

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On February 23, 2004 at 13:33:12, John Merlino wrote:

>Michael Byrne posted some analysis by Shredder 8 yesterday that ended with these
>two PVs:
>
>24.Bxg6 Bxe6 25.Bxh7+ Kh8 26.Rh1 Bh4 27.Bd3 Rxf4 28.Nxh4 Nxd4 29.Nf3+ Bh3
>30.Rhxh3+ Rh4 31.Rxh4#
>  +-  (5.11)   Depth: 15/45   00:03:50  85550kN
>24.Bxg6 Bxe6 25.Bxh7+ Kh8 26.Rh1 Bh4 27.Bd3 Rxf4 28.Nxh4 Rxd4 29.Nf5+ Rh4
>30.Rxh4#
>  +-  (5.61)   Depth: 15/46   00:04:40  100640kN
>
>Obviously, those '#' symbols are incongruous with the eval. Has this been
>mentioned before?
>
>The post is at www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?350488.
>
>jm


I saw this king of behaviour with some programs.
Shredder is not the first program when it happened to it and I saw it with
Junior and Crafty in the past.

I guess that it is no bug and there are 2 possibilities:

1)Shredder does not detect mate in the evaluation
2)The pv is some not reliable moves that shredder collected from the hash tables
instead of having pv array.

Uri



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