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Subject: Re: how many years do we need to practically solve chess?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 20:18:30 02/23/04

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On February 23, 2004 at 14:23:25, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On February 22, 2004 at 13:14:51, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 22, 2004 at 12:36:36, ludicrous wrote:
>>
>>>Let us not forget that we are talking of just the 1 percent of all the possible
>>>move sequences.  The other 99 percent is avoided on principle.
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>compute 1% of 2^168.
>>
>>:)
>>
>>That is about how many unique chess positions there are, and that doesn't even
>>consider the repetition/game history issue that makes this grow _way_ bigger.
>
>Repetitions are not needed of course to store on disk at an EGTB.
>
>All we need is a single EGTB with win/draw/loss values, just like we have it now
>for KRP KR

And if that is > 50 moves without a pawn more or a capture, you win it exactly
how?

Change the rules of chess?

Been tried, been retracted.


>
>>>On February 22, 2004 at 12:04:54, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>>
>>>>More than 50 years.
>>>>
>>>>1. I do not think that the programs will be strong enough in 2054 to be able to
>>>>play without a good opening book to win against a program or similar streght
>>>>with a good opening book. Of course they will be much stronger than today ones
>>>>and using much faster hardware.
>>>>
>>>>2. I think there is a lot to be found so 50 years will not be enough to have the
>>>>game of chess solved by computers.
>>>>
>>>>This is my opinion.
>>>>
>>>>Sandro



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