Author: Gerd Isenberg
Date: 11:42:13 02/24/04
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On February 24, 2004 at 11:08:40, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On February 24, 2004 at 10:37:48, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On February 23, 2004 at 14:19:35, Jaime Benito de Valle Ruiz wrote: >> >>>Ok, I know it was my choice, but several people have already pointed out that >>>it'd be a more sensible idea to give the scores for white (positive = white >>>wins, negative = black wins). >>>I thought that it'd be better to suggest this change now that we have just >>>started. >>> >>>Anyone has any strong argument against it? (hope not) >> >>Yes. >> >>It's better to make all positions white to move, that solves the problem easier >>than this 'rule'. >> >>If people have asymmetric eval then which takes care they misevaluate the >>position, bad luck for them :) > > >That makes no sense. A position with black king at e7, white king at e5, white >pawn at e4 makes a great deal of sense to have either white to move or black to >move, and changing it makes no sense. Black to move and white wins. White to >move and it is a draw. The eval ought to handle that correctly... To avoid the white versus side to move score chaos, it makes sense to mirror all current black to move positions vertically with white to move. > > > > >> >>>I'll post at the bottom of this page the lastest table with some corrections, >>>and with all the scores changed for white.... and with Crafty's scores too! >>> >>>I'll upload the files to geocities as usual, but you know what geocities is >>>like.... >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>> Jaime >>> >>> >>> Min Max Crafty 19.11 Tinker 4.47 Tinker Exp Gothmog Green Light Chess Queen BB >>>0.9.7i PostModernist Elephant Waster Snitch 0.3.34 Chepla v0.31 >>> >>>KS-00001 1.34 4.14 3.72 4.14 1.34 2.46 2.614 2.29 2.36 2.44 3.88 2.35 2.27 1.65 >>>KS-00002 -4.23 -1.865 -2.53 -3.16 -4.23 -2.67 -1.865 -3.5 -2.77 -2.9 -2.2 -2.99 -2.75 -3.03 >>>KS-00003 -3.63 -0.4 -1.19 -1.28 -2.68 -1.38 -1.311 -0.4 -2.64 -3.63 -1.69 -1.14 -0.97 -1.15 >>>KS-00004 -4.03 -1.7 -3.65 -4.03 -2.37 -1.81 -1.971 -1.7 -2.63 -2.89 -2.38 -2.53 -2.3 -1.9 >>>KS-00005 -3.706 -1.31 -2.88 -1.31 -2.59 -2.32 -3.706 -2.67 -2.88 -1.88 -3.44 -2.73 -3.11 -3.4 >>>KS-00006 -8.44 -6.37 -8.44 -8.43 -7.43 -7.62 -7.773 -7.77 -7.46 -8.36 -7.16 -7.17 -6.37 -7 >>>KS-00007 -2.06 -0.29 -1.19 -0.78 -0.88 -1.22 -1.042 -1.45 -1.45 -0.29 -1.41 -1.03 -2.06 -1.22 >>>KS-00008 -6.49 4.62 0.65 1.52 -0.82 1.05 -0.093 -6.49 -0.44 4.62 -0.84 -1.52 2.79 -0.94 >>>KS-00009 -4.13 -1.45 -2.89 -2.63 -2.67 -2.08 -1.918 -4.13 -2.71 -3.31 -1.45 -2.37 -1.49 -1.94 >>>KS-00010 -7.58 -2.58 -6.09 -5.31 -6.75 -3.33 -7.158 -7.58 -5.72 -2.58 -5.19 -6.36 -5.65 -6.81 >>>KS-00011 -0.21 2.21 1.60 -0.21 1.89 2.21 0.814 0.69 0.83 2.08 0.47 0.99 1.22 1.82 >>>KS-00012 -3.9 -1.52 -3.90 -3.16 -2.71 -2.22 -1.52 -2.44 -2.8 -2.55 -1.89 -2.55 -1.53 -2.85 >>>KS-00013 -7.16 -5.89 -6.39 -6.14 -7.16 -6.27 -6.908 -6.72 -6.39 -6.12 -6.58 -7.07 -5.89 -6.83 >>>KS-00014 0.58 4.6 2.84 4.60 2.82 2.33 2.089 2.31 1.29 1.99 0.58 1.33 1.03 1.47 >>>KS-00015 3.78 5.88 3.78 4.86 5.72 3.91 5.249 4.28 5.51 5.02 5.88 5.35 5.61 5.39 >>>PP-00001 -0.57 1.8 -0.54 0.81 -0.07 -0.05 1.122 -0.57 1.09 0.2 0.88 0 1.8 0.37 >>>PP-00002 -0.63 1.89 -0.63 1.67 1.86 0.93 1.021 1.89 1.57 0.3 1.69 0.36 1.32 1.3 >>>PP-00003 -2.41 2.12 0.82 -2.38 -2.41 1.72 2.109 2.12 1.67 0.78 1.73 1.03 1.46 1.12 >>>PP-00004 -1.99 6.87 4.80 6.22 6.87 -0.52 -1.804 -1.99 -0.73 -1.75 -0.92 -1.11 -1.18 -1.98 >>>PP-00005 -7.16 0.52 -7.16 -1.03 0.52 -1.89 -1.898 -3.48 -1.73 -1.84 -1.15 -1.42 -2.3 -1.45 >>>PP-00006 -0.87 1.61 -0.51 0.16 -0.19 -0.12 -0.208 0.16 -0.35 -0.34 -0.87 1.61 0.26 -0.28 >>>PP-00007 -4.52 -0.26 -4.52 -1.87 -1.13 -1.99 -2.965 -3.13 -2.95 -2.2 -3.04 -0.26 -3.92 -3.08 >>>IM-00001 -2.82 1.35 -1.06 0.22 0.08 0.61 0.568 -0.52 0.89 -0.44 0.36 -2.82 0.48 1.35 >>>IM-00002 0 1.94 1.49 1.73 1.54 0.47 1.051 1.09 1 1.23 1.33 1.94 1.15 >>>IM-00003 0.05 2.13 1.46 2.03 2.13 0.54 1.108 0.66 1.23 1.08 1.88 0.05 1.99 1.18 >>>IM-00004 -1.08 1.14 -1.02 -0.90 -1.08 -0.97 -0.159 0.41 -0.27 -0.27 0.42 1.14 0.64 0.61 >>>EG-00001 -1.88 1.08 -1.88 -0.04 0.12 0.14 0.269 0.06 0.5 -0.27 0.16 1.08 0.07 0.2 >>>EG-00002 -1.06 4.648 0.00 0.02 0.00 0 4.648 0 4.28 0 4.14 -1.06 4.42 4.39
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