Author: George Tsavdaris
Date: 16:12:52 02/25/04
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On February 25, 2004 at 18:48:32, Thomas Mayer wrote: >Hi George, > >>> Well, it's possible to do it with another programs interface, opening >>> book and learning function, but we eventually came to the conclusion that >>> this method wasn't fair... > >> Fair? It would not be fair if you have been paid to make a test for the >> program strength, that will include only chess programs as they are out of >> their box. >> So if you use some components of one program to another, your boss would be >> disappointed as you didn't made a fair test as he only want to find the >> strength of the programs as they are given and not combining features >> between them. But that's not the case. You are not doing this for money and >> you are free to do whatever you want. Is the purpose of the list to give the >> strength of the engines or of the whole commercial package? > >Afaik the purpose is to give the strength of the whole commercial package - the >so called out of the box strength. In that respect the SSDF-list is a wonderful >source - you can use it as a helping list to make you choice which program you >want to buy. Of course, for us computer chess enthusiasts this is just a hint - >we buy anyway nearly anything... :) > >By the way: the opening book and the handling of the opening book is a big part >of the engine strength. So in my opinion Thoralf is correct when he says that it >would be somewhat unfair to the others, when one engine uses the environment of >the other products. E.g. when I think about my own engine just using general.ctg >and the advanced book learning of say Fritz GUI this would boost it in such >matches about 100 Elo, I am quite sure about that number. I would never consider >this as fair. Well, i disagree. If Quark can play with Fritz8 book and inside Chessbase GUI for example, 130 points stronger from Leo's list = 2677 , while Smarthink for example doesn't have any combination of book and GUI to be able to play more than 20 points stronger = 2643, i will definitely say that Quark CAN be stronger from Smarthink, so Quark IS stronger from Smarthink.
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