Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 17:02:12 02/25/04
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On February 24, 2004 at 11:08:40, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On February 24, 2004 at 10:37:48, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On February 23, 2004 at 14:19:35, Jaime Benito de Valle Ruiz wrote: >> >>>Ok, I know it was my choice, but several people have already pointed out that >>>it'd be a more sensible idea to give the scores for white (positive = white >>>wins, negative = black wins). >>>I thought that it'd be better to suggest this change now that we have just >>>started. >>> >>>Anyone has any strong argument against it? (hope not) >> >>Yes. >> >>It's better to make all positions white to move, that solves the problem easier >>than this 'rule'. >> >>If people have asymmetric eval then which takes care they misevaluate the >>position, bad luck for them :) > > >That makes no sense. A position with black king at e7, white king at e5, white >pawn at e4 makes a great deal of sense to have either white to move or black to >move, and changing it makes no sense. Black to move and white wins. White to >move and it is a draw. The eval ought to handle that correctly... Nowadays i've got KPK egtb, not sure about you. Even without them, 40 plies of search there will do too :) But well when you still live in the 80s i'm sure you want to 'handle' it correctly :) >>>I'll post at the bottom of this page the lastest table with some corrections, >>>and with all the scores changed for white.... and with Crafty's scores too! >>> >>>I'll upload the files to geocities as usual, but you know what geocities is >>>like.... >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>> Jaime >>> >>> >>> Min Max Crafty 19.11 Tinker 4.47 Tinker Exp Gothmog Green Light Chess Queen BB >>>0.9.7i PostModernist Elephant Waster Snitch 0.3.34 Chepla v0.31 >>> >>>KS-00001 1.34 4.14 3.72 4.14 1.34 2.46 2.614 2.29 2.36 2.44 3.88 2.35 2.27 1.65 >>>KS-00002 -4.23 -1.865 -2.53 -3.16 -4.23 -2.67 -1.865 -3.5 -2.77 -2.9 -2.2 -2.99 -2.75 -3.03 >>>KS-00003 -3.63 -0.4 -1.19 -1.28 -2.68 -1.38 -1.311 -0.4 -2.64 -3.63 -1.69 -1.14 -0.97 -1.15 >>>KS-00004 -4.03 -1.7 -3.65 -4.03 -2.37 -1.81 -1.971 -1.7 -2.63 -2.89 -2.38 -2.53 -2.3 -1.9 >>>KS-00005 -3.706 -1.31 -2.88 -1.31 -2.59 -2.32 -3.706 -2.67 -2.88 -1.88 -3.44 -2.73 -3.11 -3.4 >>>KS-00006 -8.44 -6.37 -8.44 -8.43 -7.43 -7.62 -7.773 -7.77 -7.46 -8.36 -7.16 -7.17 -6.37 -7 >>>KS-00007 -2.06 -0.29 -1.19 -0.78 -0.88 -1.22 -1.042 -1.45 -1.45 -0.29 -1.41 -1.03 -2.06 -1.22 >>>KS-00008 -6.49 4.62 0.65 1.52 -0.82 1.05 -0.093 -6.49 -0.44 4.62 -0.84 -1.52 2.79 -0.94 >>>KS-00009 -4.13 -1.45 -2.89 -2.63 -2.67 -2.08 -1.918 -4.13 -2.71 -3.31 -1.45 -2.37 -1.49 -1.94 >>>KS-00010 -7.58 -2.58 -6.09 -5.31 -6.75 -3.33 -7.158 -7.58 -5.72 -2.58 -5.19 -6.36 -5.65 -6.81 >>>KS-00011 -0.21 2.21 1.60 -0.21 1.89 2.21 0.814 0.69 0.83 2.08 0.47 0.99 1.22 1.82 >>>KS-00012 -3.9 -1.52 -3.90 -3.16 -2.71 -2.22 -1.52 -2.44 -2.8 -2.55 -1.89 -2.55 -1.53 -2.85 >>>KS-00013 -7.16 -5.89 -6.39 -6.14 -7.16 -6.27 -6.908 -6.72 -6.39 -6.12 -6.58 -7.07 -5.89 -6.83 >>>KS-00014 0.58 4.6 2.84 4.60 2.82 2.33 2.089 2.31 1.29 1.99 0.58 1.33 1.03 1.47 >>>KS-00015 3.78 5.88 3.78 4.86 5.72 3.91 5.249 4.28 5.51 5.02 5.88 5.35 5.61 5.39 >>>PP-00001 -0.57 1.8 -0.54 0.81 -0.07 -0.05 1.122 -0.57 1.09 0.2 0.88 0 1.8 0.37 >>>PP-00002 -0.63 1.89 -0.63 1.67 1.86 0.93 1.021 1.89 1.57 0.3 1.69 0.36 1.32 1.3 >>>PP-00003 -2.41 2.12 0.82 -2.38 -2.41 1.72 2.109 2.12 1.67 0.78 1.73 1.03 1.46 1.12 >>>PP-00004 -1.99 6.87 4.80 6.22 6.87 -0.52 -1.804 -1.99 -0.73 -1.75 -0.92 -1.11 -1.18 -1.98 >>>PP-00005 -7.16 0.52 -7.16 -1.03 0.52 -1.89 -1.898 -3.48 -1.73 -1.84 -1.15 -1.42 -2.3 -1.45 >>>PP-00006 -0.87 1.61 -0.51 0.16 -0.19 -0.12 -0.208 0.16 -0.35 -0.34 -0.87 1.61 0.26 -0.28 >>>PP-00007 -4.52 -0.26 -4.52 -1.87 -1.13 -1.99 -2.965 -3.13 -2.95 -2.2 -3.04 -0.26 -3.92 -3.08 >>>IM-00001 -2.82 1.35 -1.06 0.22 0.08 0.61 0.568 -0.52 0.89 -0.44 0.36 -2.82 0.48 1.35 >>>IM-00002 0 1.94 1.49 1.73 1.54 0.47 1.051 1.09 1 1.23 1.33 1.94 1.15 >>>IM-00003 0.05 2.13 1.46 2.03 2.13 0.54 1.108 0.66 1.23 1.08 1.88 0.05 1.99 1.18 >>>IM-00004 -1.08 1.14 -1.02 -0.90 -1.08 -0.97 -0.159 0.41 -0.27 -0.27 0.42 1.14 0.64 0.61 >>>EG-00001 -1.88 1.08 -1.88 -0.04 0.12 0.14 0.269 0.06 0.5 -0.27 0.16 1.08 0.07 0.2 >>>EG-00002 -1.06 4.648 0.00 0.02 0.00 0 4.648 0 4.28 0 4.14 -1.06 4.42 4.39
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