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Subject: Re: Static Eval: Scores for White !

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 17:03:33 02/25/04

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On February 24, 2004 at 14:47:08, Gerd Isenberg wrote:

>On February 24, 2004 at 14:42:13, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>
>>On February 24, 2004 at 11:08:40, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On February 24, 2004 at 10:37:48, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 23, 2004 at 14:19:35, Jaime Benito de Valle Ruiz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Ok, I know it was my choice, but several people have already pointed out that
>>>>>it'd be a more sensible idea to give the scores for white (positive = white
>>>>>wins, negative = black wins).
>>>>>I thought that it'd be better to suggest this change now that we have just
>>>>>started.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyone has any strong argument against it? (hope not)
>>>>
>>>>Yes.
>>>>
>>>>It's better to make all positions white to move, that solves the problem easier
>>>>than this 'rule'.
>>>>
>>>>If people have asymmetric eval then which takes care they misevaluate the
>>>>position, bad luck for them :)
>>>
>>>
>>>That makes no sense.  A position with black king at e7, white king at e5, white
>>>pawn at e4 makes a great deal of sense to have either white to move or black to
>>>move, and changing it makes no sense.  Black to move and white wins.  White to
>>>move and it is a draw.  The eval ought to handle that correctly...
>>
>>
>>To avoid the white versus side to move score chaos, it makes sense to mirror all
>>current black to move positions vertically with white to move.
>
>Oups, with mirror vertically i mean white pawn on e2 becomes black pawn on e7
>and so on.

i prefer also left right mirrorring. I bet diep is one of the few programs still
displaying the same score then :)





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