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Subject: Re: Static Eval: Scores for White !

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 18:13:23 02/25/04

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On February 25, 2004 at 20:02:12, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On February 24, 2004 at 11:08:40, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On February 24, 2004 at 10:37:48, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On February 23, 2004 at 14:19:35, Jaime Benito de Valle Ruiz wrote:
>>>
>>>>Ok, I know it was my choice, but several people have already pointed out that
>>>>it'd be a more sensible idea to give the scores for white (positive = white
>>>>wins, negative = black wins).
>>>>I thought that it'd be better to suggest this change now that we have just
>>>>started.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone has any strong argument against it? (hope not)
>>>
>>>Yes.
>>>
>>>It's better to make all positions white to move, that solves the problem easier
>>>than this 'rule'.
>>>
>>>If people have asymmetric eval then which takes care they misevaluate the
>>>position, bad luck for them :)
>>
>>
>>That makes no sense.  A position with black king at e7, white king at e5, white
>>pawn at e4 makes a great deal of sense to have either white to move or black to
>>move, and changing it makes no sense.  Black to move and white wins.  White to
>>move and it is a draw.  The eval ought to handle that correctly...
>
>Nowadays i've got KPK egtb, not sure about you.
>Even without them, 40 plies of search there will do too :)
>But well when you still live in the 80s i'm sure you want to 'handle' it
>correctly :)
>

I want to handle it correctly, because I want to handle it correctly.  Nothing
more, nothing less.  I won't always have tables handy.

As far as living in the 80's, perhaps that is far better than living in
never-never-land where you reside?

As far as the 40 plies of search, I don't quite see how you do that when we are
evaluating _tip_ positions.  But of course, that point is too subtle for you and
simply flies over your head...




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