Author: Lanny DiBartolomeo
Date: 17:35:18 12/08/98
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On December 08, 1998 at 17:35:46, Reynolds Takata wrote:
>On December 08, 1998 at 15:17:34, Laurence Chen wrote:
>
>>I am getting pretty tired of hearing all the praises for CM 6000 engine. And the
>>fact it is beating Junior 5 does not prove to be a superior engine.
>
>Well not in the number of games played, but enough games played will show it,
>and the number of games already played shows that it's far stronger than you
>would like to make out. I'd bet on CM6000 vs J5 in a match any day.
>
AGREED!
>
>I believe
>>that the test which James Walker is a little biased towards CM, Junior is being
>>handicapped by having the FS mode turned on, which the default setting for
>>Junior would have it off. We all want a strong chess engine, no doubt, but chess
>>engine gets stronger with each new release, and there are plans for a new Fritz
>>6 sometime next year, and who knows what other new engines are being improved
>>with each passing year. Millenium is coming out soon, the Chess Genius family. I
>>don't like CM engine family because of its style or personality of playing. I
>>prefer a more agressive chess engine
>
>I don't know what CM you've been playing??? I Own every program in the top 10
>of the SSDF, and Chessmaster is by far more aggressive than any of them. I
>can't hardly find a game where chessmaster isn't sacking something for the
>initiative!
>
>. Now
>>
THIS IS TRUE!!! It is incredible the play it tries to create and create it it
does!
let's get back to the CM and the Nunn positions. I was running a match of the
>>first Nunn position between CM and Fritz 5.16/Junior 5. And I was surprised by
>>the results, and specially by the difference of assessment of the position by
>>the engines. I am including the games. From these games I concluded that CM is
>>"boring" to watch.
>
>Chessmaster scores higher on the combinative part of the louguet sute test than
>any other program including fritz, CM in my expert opinion is the most strongly
>combinative program. At 5 minutes i can get draws quite often and win
>occasionaly against Junior/Fritz, they give you a chance to breathe CM's only
>motto is "YOU MUST DIE!!". Here is one of many wins against Junior 5 at 5
>minutes on P200 MMX. Chessmaster scalps a fellow and then laughs.
>
>R. Takata
>USCF Life Master
>Fide Master
>
>
>WELL SPOKEN!!
> [Event "?"]
>[Site "?"]
>[Date "????.??.??"]
>[Round "?"]
>[White "Reynolds Takata"]
>[Black "Junior 5"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>[ECO "B04"]
>[WhiteElo "2249"]
>[PlyCount "93"]
>
>{16384kB, reb.ctg=182276 pos} 1. e4 {1} 1... Nf6 {0} 2. e5 {1} 2... Nd5 {0} 3.
>d4 {1} 3... d6 {0} 4. Nf3 {1} 4... g6 {0} 5. Bc4 {1} 5... c6 {0} 6. O-O {3}
>6... Bg7 {0} 7. Nc3 {10} 7... Nxc3 {0} 8. bxc3 {0} 8... d5 {0} 9. Bd3 {4} 9...
>Bg4 {0} 10. Re1 {13} 10... Qa5 {0.35/8 29} 11. Bd2 {5} 11... O-O {0.48/9 24}
>12. h3 {7} 12... Bxf3 {0.56/11 7} 13. Qxf3 {2} 13... Nd7 {0.50/11 8} 14. Qd1 {3
>} 14... Nb6 {0.44/11 9} 15. Qc1 {2} 15... Nc4 {0.26/11 6} 16. Bxc4 {15} 16...
>dxc4 {0.32/9 3} 17. Re4 {15} 17... Rfe8 {0.07/11 11} 18. Bh6 {6} 18... f6 {
>0.27/10 5} 19. Bxg7 {4} 19... Kxg7 {0.55/10 5} 20. Qd2 {4} 20... Kh8 {0.32/9 5}
>21. Rae1 {5} 21... fxe5 {0.38/10 6} 22. Rxe5 {5} 22... Qxa2 {0.69/11 1} 23. Qh6
>{6} 23... Qa3 {0.61/11 7} 24. R1e3 {4} 24... a5 {-0.02/11 8} 25. h4 {5} 25...
>Qc1+ {-0.23/11 8} 26. Kh2 {2} 26... Qd2 {-0.23/10 5} 27. h5 {8} 27... Qxe3 {
>4.63/11 0} 28. Rxe3 {11} 28... gxh5 {4.56/11 4} 29. Qxh5 {7} 29... e5 {
>5.16/12 0} 30. Rxe5 {4} 30... Rg8 {6.13/11 2} 31. Re7 {6} 31... Rg7 {6.78/12 0}
>32. Qc5 {14} 32... Rxe7 {5.83/10 6} 33. Qxe7 {1} 33... h5 {6.45/10 4} 34. Qxb7
>{2} 34... Rf8 {7.08/11 7} 35. f3 {3} 35... Rf6 {7.32/11 4} 36. Qa6 {3} 36...
>Kg7 {7.41/11 4} 37. Qxa5 {1} 37... Kg6 {7.57/11 6} 38. Qc5 {3} 38... Kh7 {
>7.57/10 1} 39. Qxh5+ {5} 39... Rh6 {7.11/12 2} 40. Qxh6+ {1} 40... Kxh6 {
>7.24/12 1} 41. Kg3 {1} 41... Kg5 {7.84/19 3} 42. f4+ {4} 42... Kf5 {8.12/21 0}
>43. Kf3 {1} 43... Kf6 {8.81/18 4} 44. g4 {1} 44... Ke7 {9.40/17 3} 45. Ke4 {2}
>45... Ke6 {9.42/16 2} 46. g5 {2} 46... Kf7 {9.95/16 1} 47. f5 {1} 1-0
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