Computer Chess Club Archives


Search

Terms

Messages

Subject: Re: suggestion for a rule for exposing source code in world championship

Author: Albert Silver

Date: 12:24:48 02/27/04

Go up one level in this thread


On February 27, 2004 at 13:55:40, Anthony Cozzie wrote:

>On February 27, 2004 at 13:08:43, Albert Silver wrote:
>
>>On February 27, 2004 at 12:26:56, Anthony Cozzie wrote:
>>
>>>On February 27, 2004 at 08:46:16, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>I think that the following rule should be a good rule for world championships.
>>>>
>>>>Every programmer who participate in the computer world championship has to
>>>>expose the source code of the program 5 years after the event.
>>>>
>>>>It can be good for the following purposes:
>>>>
>>>>1)Preventing clones and at least clones will be exposed after 5 years.
>>>>2)progress in computer chess because people will have access to more
>>>>information.
>>>>
>>>>I suggest 5 years because I believe that if we decide about short time then it
>>>>may prevent the participation of commercial programs when in case that the code
>>>>is exposed only after 5 years then 5 years is enough time to make a significant
>>>>improvement in the program so good programmers can continue to earn money from
>>>>selling chess programs and participate in the world championship.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I think that commercial secrets that are kept forever is a bad thing and it is
>>>>better to have a world when it is not allowed to have commercial secrets for
>>>>more than 5 years.
>>>>
>>>>commercial secrets for a limited time are needed(otherwise people will have less
>>>>motivation to do things) but commercial secrets for unlimited time are bad for
>>>>progress because people have less information to learn from.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>I honestly see nothing wrong with the ICGA's actions.
>>>
>>>1. Assume innocent.
>>
>>Assume innocent? I was under the impression they assumed guilt and removed List
>>5.12 from the roster in mid-tournament.
>>
>
>No, they offered to fly Dr Heinz to Germany to take a look at List's source.  He
>refused, so they kicked him.
>
>anthony

Your post said: 1) assume innocence, and 2) if evidence comes up.... So
innocence was presumed and they offered to fly a senior member which would be
the result of finding evidence. What was the evidence?

                                        Albert

>
>>>
>>>2. If evidence comes up, fly senior member to view parts of the source code on a
>>>laptop.
>>>
>>>There is no problem to fix here.  The ICGA handled this dispute very well.  The
>>>draw issue was not handled as well, but hitting 50% isn't so bad.
>>>
>>>anthony



This page took 0 seconds to execute

Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700

Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.