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Subject: Re: ICCF GM Nickel vs. 6 engines updated (first result Pluto-Nickel 1/2:1/2)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:27:59 02/28/04

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On February 28, 2004 at 01:22:10, Derek Paquette wrote:

>On February 27, 2004 at 18:44:23, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On February 27, 2004 at 18:17:18, Bryan Hofmann wrote:
>>
>>>On February 27, 2004 at 18:11:39, Derek Paquette wrote:
>>>
>>>>Ok, I am a littel confused?
>>>>
>>>>These engines are code named so he doesn't know which engine he is playing
>>>>exactly? or?
>>>>
>>>>what exactly is going on,
>>>
>>>Same here, but I do know this Nickel is not a GM level player OTB
>>>http://www.fide.com/ratings/card.phtml?event=4623703
>>
>>Totally unimportant.
>>
>>The games are to check if strong correspondence players with the aid of
>>computers can beat computers.
>>
>>Note that Arno nickel does not use many computers to analyze so the opponents
>>computer opponent have time advanatage and to make the task harder arno nickel
>>also does not know the names of the chess programs that he is playing so he
>>cannot prepare against specific program unless he guess correctly the opponent.
>>
>>Uri
>
>While that might be, and probably is true, where the programs do have a time
>advantage, we are taking days on each move.  He is an experienced player using
>programs to assist him.  All hiw knowledge and experience ASWELL as the programs
>chugging away at the problems, now that I think about it longer i wouldn't be
>surprised if he draws most and wins some.
>
>Has he said at all what his results have been just playing the programs on their
>own at normal time controls?

There is no question that programs on their own are stronger.

The interesting question is if human with the help of programs can beat chess
programs in correspondence games and the answer is that when the programs has
hardware advantage it is not clear even for ICCF GM's.

Uri



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