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Subject: Re: Most moves in a Engine vs Engine game?

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 19:44:58 12/08/98

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On December 08, 1998 at 03:58:24, Mark Young wrote:

>On December 08, 1998 at 03:05:25, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On December 07, 1998 at 22:01:35, John Wentworth wrote:
>>
>>>What is the largest # of moves in a single game between two chess engines that
>>>people have witnessed. It would be interesting to hear of some long games and
>>>maybe a PGN of them.
>>>   Seems like the quicker the time frame the more moves will be made. I'am
>>>guessing because of mistakes made. I just finished watching this long game which
>>>was because of a lot of inaccurate play I'am sure. I was glad it blitz and not
>>>40/2!
>>At 40/2 there are a lot fewer crappy games.  The faster the time control, the
>>worse the game -- (assuming the same opponents, in general).
>>I hate lightning chess.  I don't like blitz chess.  I like the slowest time
>>controls best of all (up to a point -- I can't wait ten years for a game to
>>complete).
>>
>>I would like to see Deep Blue verses Kasparov at one day per move.  At that
>>scale, Deep Blue would see so far ahead, it would start to see things
>>strategically.  256 million positions per second times 86,400 seconds would be
>>2.2e13 positions examined.  Now that would be an awesome game.
>
>It would be a trashing of Deep Blue. I would bet the farm on Kasparov. Even at 1
>billion position a second Deep Blue will only see a very few plys past what it
>could see at 3 min a move. Where a strong human player will find the correct
>line of play, and not be hit with the tactics they could not work out at 3 min a
>move. No chance for any computer at that time control IMO. And would show how
>much more improvment there is to go in computer chess.

Personally, I think you're seriously underestimating Deep Blue.  And yes, I'm
well aware that typically computers perform less well at correspondence time
controls.

If I were to make a bet, it would be on Kasparov, but I'd know my money would be
at risk.

Dave Gomboc



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