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Subject: Re: Please don't do such poor testing here.

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 07:48:28 02/28/04

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I was comparing compilers...not CPUs.

With Intel's compiler, with no optimizations, the FX51 gets over 1.2M nps.

Both compilers came from the DDK, and are, per MS, exactly the same.  They just
use different libraries.

It wasn't poor testing.  You just misinterpeted it.


On February 28, 2004 at 07:57:16, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On February 28, 2004 at 03:33:00, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>cl from the Windows 2003 Server DDK used in all compilations.  No flags
>>(optimizations) were used.
>
>Your results are not representing truth.
>
>>64-bit:
>>Microsoft (R) C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 14.00.2207 for AMD64
>>Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation 1984-2002. All rights reserved.
>>
>>32-bit:
>>Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 12.00.8804 for 80x86
>>Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1984-1998. All rights reserved.
>
>Everyone cannot take your 32 bits results serious.
>
>They are a deliberate way to make 64 bits look better than it is.
>
>We are not fighting a intel/amd war here.
>
>This is too sick for words to do so. You know very well how to compile.
>
>Crafty at my K7 2.127Ghz (MP2600) even with slow msvc 7.1 compiler gets way
>above 1 million nps here.
>
>In 32 bits it'll get another 50% more at least at the opteron you're testing.
>
>>
>>Olithink:
>>
>>64-bit:
>>12     8   3121  22997307  b1-c3 d7-d5 d2-d4 g8-f6 c1-f4 c8-f5 g1-f3 b8-c6 e2-e3
>> e7-e6 f1-b5 d8-d7
>>
>>32-bit:
>>12     8   3284  22997307  b1-c3 d7-d5 d2-d4 g8-f6 c1-f4 c8-f5 g1-f3 b8-c6 e2-e3
>> e7-e6 f1-b5 d8-d7
>>
>>
>>TSCP:
>>
>>64-bit:
>>Nodes: 550778
>>Best time: 1703 ms
>>Nodes per second: 323416 (Score: 1.330)
>>
>>32-bit:
>>Nodes: 550778
>>Best time: 2875 ms
>>Nodes per second: 191574 (Score: 0.788)
>>
>>
>>Crafty:
>>
>>64-bit:
>>Total nodes: 102625951
>>Raw nodes per second: 2052519
>>Total elapsed time: 50
>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 12.800000
>>
>>32-bit:
>>Total nodes: 102625951
>>Raw nodes per second: 733042
>>Total elapsed time: 140
>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 4.571429



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