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Subject: Re: Ruffian versions - my FINAL conclusion

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:50:18 02/29/04

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On February 29, 2004 at 09:57:04, Chessfun wrote:

>On February 29, 2004 at 09:45:07, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On February 29, 2004 at 09:09:49, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On February 29, 2004 at 08:37:57, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 29, 2004 at 06:58:20, Sedat wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 29, 2004 at 04:17:05, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>I think we can safely remove Ruffian from PRO engines, because there is now 4
>>>>>>(!) versions after free 1.0.5, but it's unclear if ANY is better. This is not
>>>>>>professional product!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Jouni
>>>>>-------------------------------
>>>>>
>>>>> - In my opinion  Ruffian 2.0.0 is professional product,
>>>>> - Ruffian 2.0.0 plays(in blitz)at strenght as Hiarcs 9,Deep Fritz 8,TheKing323
>>>>> -In my Ratinlist Ruffian 2.0.0 scores 59 points better than Ruffian 1.0.5
>>>>>
>>>>>Please check the results at this url:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.geocities.com/sedatchess/rating_all_4m_2s.html
>>>>>
>>>>>Sedat
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Have you tested Ruffian 2.0.0 versus Fritz 5.32 yet , or you want me to post it
>>>>here? I have not posted it yet because of its poor performance against Fritz
>>>>5.32. But the only setback is the Fritz 5.32 was using Shredder8.ctg, therefore,
>>>>the result is invalid :-)
>>>>
>>>>Jorge
>>>
>>>It means that Fritz5.32 was handicapped by a book that is clearly not tuned to
>>>hide Fritz's weaknesses.
>>>
>>>I bet that kasparov will perform worse if you tell him to use the book moves
>>>that karpov plays and it means that if you get bad results for Ruffian then your
>>>results are even more surprising.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>     Hi Uri
>>     I think Jorge wanted to say that Fritz532 clearly won!!!
>>     And therefore we can't speak about a book handicap.
>>     Kurt
>
>Uri, naturally could have meant that Fritz 5.32 was handicapped when released
>with general.ctg instead of a book that suited it's playing style as maybe
>Shredder8.ctg does.
>
>Sarah.

I meant that Fritz5.32 was handicapped when it was tested with shredder8.ctg and
not with a special book that fit its playing style.

I did not think about general.ctg as a book that does not fit Fritz5.32's style
because I understood that shredder8.ctg was used for Fritz5.32 and not
general.ctg

Uri



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