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Subject: Re: Tournament Format for World Computer Chess Championship 2004

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 09:15:53 03/01/04

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On March 01, 2004 at 11:57:51, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On March 01, 2004 at 11:31:25, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On March 01, 2004 at 11:04:40, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>On March 01, 2004 at 01:41:15, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On February 29, 2004 at 23:04:31, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On February 29, 2004 at 22:25:05, Charles Roberson wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi Omid,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   I thank you for having an open mind on this. As for my thoughts.
>>>>>>  I don't like A. IMHO, B is better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  It may take more than 7 rounds to decide in 2004. If Rebel, Crafty, TheKing,
>>>>>>  Lambchop and Tiger (to name just a few) and/or a few others compete. It will
>>>>>>  take more than 7 rounds to decide. The number of rounds to decide depends
>>>>>>  on the competition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  My dislike for A is the following: The 5th placed competitor in the 2nd
>>>>>>  group may be stronger than one or more of the top 4 in the first group.
>>>>>>  Thus format A introduces a considerable amount of luck. IMHO that would not
>>>>>>  be good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Again, thanks to all for an open mind.
>>>>>
>>>>>I completely agree with you. Add to that, that if i would be kicked out after 5
>>>>>rounds, that i'm not going to play another 6 rounds whatever happens. You play
>>>>>for a title. When you're out, you're out and leave.
>>>>
>>>>Wrong
>>>
>>>WRONG.
>>>
>>>>By your logic even if there is one swiss you leave the tournament in the last
>>>>rounds if you see based on results that you have no chance to win the
>>>>tournament.
>>>
>>>WRONG, your logics do not realize that in a swiss tournament i can still get
>>>divided 5th by winning the last 2 rounds. In the knockout you can never get
>>>better than 9th if you're knocked out.
>>
>>What title do you win by dividing 5th place?
>>
>>I think that people who play should play all games and different behaviour is
>>simply not sportivic behaviour and should be a reason to ban the people who do
>>it from future events.
>>Uri
>
>That's why i told the tournament organisation that in case of a knockout and i'm
>out of it, i'm going to sightsee the rest of Israel.
>
>Playing for a 9th spot: NO THANKS.
>
>The majority however will simply not even show up in Israel, should they be
>banned for doing that?

If you say that you do not show up in case of a knockout there is no problem.
If you say that you show up but quit in case of losing then it is wrong to do
it.

Uri




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