Author: Gerd Isenberg
Date: 11:45:47 03/01/04
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On March 01, 2004 at 10:20:16, Geert van der Wulp wrote: >On March 01, 2004 at 10:07:17, Omid David Tabibi wrote: > >>On February 29, 2004 at 21:49:41, Omid David Tabibi wrote: >> >>>The tournament format for WCCC that was originally decided was: >>> >>>-------- >>>http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/icga/news/events/Israel/event.html >>> >>>The format for the 12th World Computer Chess Championship WCCC2004 will be: >>>5-round Swiss, after which the top 4 + 4 teams get to play a 2-round elimination >>>at each stage, and the bottom teams continue to compete for the 9th spot playing >>>a 6-round Swiss. >>>-------- >>> >>>However, since a large number of amateur programmers expressed their disapproval >>>of this system, we have decided to change the format so that it will attract the >>>largest number of programmers. Currently the two options are: >>> >>>A) Like the original format, but with re-entry: >>> >>>Divide the participants into two groups. Conduct 5 rounds Swiss, and top 4 from >>>each group (total of 8) will qualify for next stage, which will be a knockout (2 >>>rounds quarter-final, 2 rounds semi-final, 2 rounds final). The other programs >>>will continue with 6 more Swiss rounds. However, the *difference* is: the losers >>>in the knockout will join the other programs (who haven't qualified for knockout >>>phase) in continuing with additional Swiss rounds (with all the points they >>>scored in the first 5 rounds and in the knockout phase). >>> >>>The advantage of this method over the original one is that the amateurs will get >>>more chances of playing against commercial programs after the first 5 rounds. >>> >>>B) 11 rounds Swiss. >>> >>>In Graz WCCC everything was basically over after 7 rounds. The last 4 rounds >>>didn't change anything at all. That is the reason why we are trying to choose a >>>more exciting format. >>> >>>However, our primary goal is maximizing participation. So, if 11 rounds Swiss >>>will attract the largest number of participants, then we will opt for it. >>> >>> >>>We are interested in hearing your opinion, especially the opinion of programmers >>>who are considering participation in WCCC. >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Omid David Tabibi (davoudo@cs.biu.ac.il), >>>Bar-Ilan University. >> >>The question is not about the number of rounds; that will be 11 in any case (in >>9 days). The question is how to use those 11 rounds (in such a way that everyone >>plays exactly 11 rounds). >> >>Currently we have two options: >> >>A) Original knockout format with re-entry (described above) >> >>B) 11 rounds Swiss >> >>Which of these two options you prefer, A or B? > >This time the question is more clear. I believe that an 11 round Swiss System >must be preferred. I think that a Swiss System gets better if more rounds are >played. The less rounds played, the more one is dependent on "pairing luck". > >Therefore an 11 round Swiss tournament will be best in my opinion. Remember Dutch Open 01. 11 rounds, 16 participants. Last round (points so far): ChessTiger 14.6 (8) - Crafty (5.5) 1-0 EEC (0) - Rebel Century 4 (8) 0-1 And Tiger won by 70-66 Buchholz points. > >Regards, > >Geert
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