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Subject: Re: Movei00_8_174 vs Baron 1.2.0 ended 17 to 13

Author: Drexel,Michael

Date: 13:25:14 03/01/04

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On March 01, 2004 at 15:25:03, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On March 01, 2004 at 11:35:53, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On March 01, 2004 at 11:27:33, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On March 01, 2004 at 11:17:40, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 10:56:02, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 10:42:28, Drexel,Michael wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 10:27:54, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 10:19:53, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Arena tournament
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Rank	Engine	        Score	Ba	Mo	                        S-B
>>>>>>>>1	Movei00_8_174	17.0/30	· · · · 0011=1=110=1101110010010110===. 221.00
>>>>>>>>2	Baron 1.2.0 	13.0/30	1100=0=001=0010001101101001===·         221.00
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>30 games played / Tournament finished
>>>>>>>>Tournament start: 2004.02.29, 20:16:36
>>>>>>>>Latest update: 2004.03.01, 04:41:01
>>>>>>>>Site/ Country: S0025128408, United States
>>>>>>>>Level: Blitz 10/0
>>>>>>>>Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1202 MHz
>>>>>>>>Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Build 2195
>>>>>>>>PGN-File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Arena.pgn
>>>>>>>>Table created with: Arena 1.03
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It seems that movei did not use book in these games and only played the first
>>>>>>>move from its internal book that is not in an external file.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There are 2 book files that should be used with movei if you want it to use
>>>>>>>book.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Not that I complain(people can test movei as they want) and I am not sure if
>>>>>>>movei could do better with it's small books.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Uri
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Movei does probably much worse with this "book".
>>>>>>It shouldn't play 1.e4 without huge book because it does not know how to play a
>>>>>>sicilian or french defence at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Michael
>>>>>
>>>>>Note that with default setting after losing one game with 1.e4 movei learns to
>>>>>play 1.d4 and it learns again to play 1.e4 after losing a game with 1.d4
>>>>>
>>>>>I have games from my beta testers when movei won with 1.e4 both against sicilian
>>>>>and french(note that I still did not look at the games and maybe the opponents
>>>>>also do not know how to play against movei's mistakes)
>>>>>
>>>>>I am not sure if movei's book was exactly the same as the public book in these
>>>>>games but I am quite sure that my beta tester did not use a huge book.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Where can I download your latest Opening Book for Movei?
>>>>
>>>>Jorge
>>>
>>>I guess that at the same site that you download movei.
>>>Note that I am not sure if it is the latest version that I have but I am sure
>>>that it is the version that I sent for download(I did not consider book as very
>>>important so I even did not check if it is the latest version that I have but
>>>maybe I am going to update movei's book later).
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>I can add that you should have bookmoveiwhite.txt and bookmoveiblack.txt in the
>>file that you download when you download movei.
>>
>>They should be in the same folder as movei00_8_174.exe if you want movei to use
>>book.
>>
>
>Yes they both are there, but Bookmoveiblack.txt is only 2KB and it was modified:
>Thursday, November 20, 2003, 7:56:06 PM
>and bookmoveiwhite.txt is only 5KB and it was modified: Monday, June 23, 2003,
>8:50:10 PM
>
>I thought that you had a bigger Opening Book like baronB.obp which is 1133KB and
>baronW.obp 575 KB, but the size doesn't matter much as you all saw the end
>result :-)
>
>Jorge

The result is not surprising at all.
I played a 40 games Blitz match Hiarcs 9 against a previous version of Baron
some time ago and it ended IIRC +30 =9 -1.
Movei is somewhat stronger in Blitz.

Michael






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