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Subject: Re: Is SPEC a bad test organisation according to Hyatt?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:27:33 03/01/04

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On March 01, 2004 at 16:20:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 01, 2004 at 15:22:10, Brian Richardson wrote:
>
>>On March 01, 2004 at 14:24:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On March 01, 2004 at 14:20:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 13:59:25, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 13:49:38, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 12:05:17, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On February 29, 2004 at 23:38:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You qualify the testresults as done for SPEC as INVALID and INCORRECT?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>YES or NO?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[bla bla removed]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Had you stopped to drink vodka every morning?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Please answer only YES or NO.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>[bla bla removed]
>>>>>
>>>>>So, my previous post pointed that there are questions for which you cannot
>>>>>answer "YES or NO".
>>>>>
>>>>>And here is *official* SPEC data for 1.3GHz K7 and 1.5GHz Itanium2:
>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2001q4/cpu2000-20011008-01018.html
>>>>>http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2004q1/cpu2000-20040126-02775.html
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Eugene
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Please do not confuse discussions with Vincent by supplying real data.  Things
>>>>stay on a more equal footing if you just make up stuff and post it here.
>>>>
>>>><sarcasm off>
>>>>
>>>>:)
>>>
>>>
>>>For those that didn't look at the data, the 1.5ghz K7 compared to the 1.5ghz
>>>itanium shows a 50% faster speed on the Itanium.  IE the K7 took 127 seconds to
>>>run the test, the Itanium took 80.
>>>
>>
>>Yes, but isn't the K7 a 32 bit CPU, whereas the Itanium2 is 64 bits?
>>If so, then clock for clock is not very indicative, especially
>>quoting a 2 1/2 year old benchmark.
>
>Vincent quoted K7 vs Itanium.  Eugene responded with data for those two
>processors.  I didn't pick them either.
>

Quote on:

The speedwin from crafty when going from K7 to Itanium2, was real real small.

Quote off

That was What Eugene responded to.

"real real small" -> 50% faster on Itanium 2.

"real real small" indeed.

:)

>
>>
>>How about Opteron vs Itanium?
>
>
>
>
>>
>>>Why 1.5ghz K7?  Because Vincent was talking about "clock for clock" and Eugene
>>>chose to supply real data rather than barking up a hollow tree...



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