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Subject: Re: Is SPEC a bad test organisation according to Hyatt?

Author: Matthew Hull

Date: 13:35:06 03/01/04

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On March 01, 2004 at 16:27:33, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On March 01, 2004 at 16:20:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On March 01, 2004 at 15:22:10, Brian Richardson wrote:
>>
>>>On March 01, 2004 at 14:24:50, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 14:20:41, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 13:59:25, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 13:49:38, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On March 01, 2004 at 12:05:17, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On February 29, 2004 at 23:38:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>[snip]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You qualify the testresults as done for SPEC as INVALID and INCORRECT?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>YES or NO?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>[bla bla removed]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Had you stopped to drink vodka every morning?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Please answer only YES or NO.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>[bla bla removed]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So, my previous post pointed that there are questions for which you cannot
>>>>>>answer "YES or NO".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>And here is *official* SPEC data for 1.3GHz K7 and 1.5GHz Itanium2:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2001q4/cpu2000-20011008-01018.html
>>>>>>http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2004q1/cpu2000-20040126-02775.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>Eugene
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Please do not confuse discussions with Vincent by supplying real data.  Things
>>>>>stay on a more equal footing if you just make up stuff and post it here.
>>>>>
>>>>><sarcasm off>
>>>>>
>>>>>:)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>For those that didn't look at the data, the 1.5ghz K7 compared to the 1.5ghz
>>>>itanium shows a 50% faster speed on the Itanium.  IE the K7 took 127 seconds to
>>>>run the test, the Itanium took 80.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Yes, but isn't the K7 a 32 bit CPU, whereas the Itanium2 is 64 bits?
>>>If so, then clock for clock is not very indicative, especially
>>>quoting a 2 1/2 year old benchmark.
>>
>>Vincent quoted K7 vs Itanium.  Eugene responded with data for those two
>>processors.  I didn't pick them either.
>>
>
>Quote on:
>
>The speedwin from crafty when going from K7 to Itanium2, was real real small.
>
>Quote off
>
>That was What Eugene responded to.
>
>"real real small" -> 50% faster on Itanium 2.
>
>"real real small" indeed.
>
>:)


It is useful to remember that Vincent wields with his own mind the most awesome
power on earth, a power capable of defeating the combined strength of even 512
processors.


>
>>
>>>
>>>How about Opteron vs Itanium?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>Why 1.5ghz K7?  Because Vincent was talking about "clock for clock" and Eugene
>>>>chose to supply real data rather than barking up a hollow tree...



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