Author: Micheal Cummings
Date: 05:47:14 12/09/98
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On December 09, 1998 at 02:25:34, Reynolds Takata wrote: >On December 07, 1998 at 15:20:26, Komputer Korner wrote: > >>On December 03, 1998 at 23:26:36, Reynolds Takata wrote: >> >>> >>>> >>>>You are right Elvis, as always. Read my latest review of it in the EN Passant >>>>magazine of the Chess Federation of Canada. They have a web site and will be >>>>glad to send you a copy of their magazine and they might even give it to you for >>>>free. (No promises though). In the review I detail the whole truth and nothing >>>>but the truth. I gave it a Komputer Korner Gold Medal for its value in features >>>>to non tournament players and for it’s engine strength For the non-tournament >>>>player, it is a great bargain, no doubt about it. >>>>-- >>>>Komputer Korner >>> >>> >>>Everyone has ther own opinions, but being a USCF life Master/Fide Master, and >>>having played chess for 20+ years, I feel that CM 5500-6000 is a great tool for >>>tournament players. >>> >>>R. Takata >> >>You are simply wrong here. Everyone agrees that CM6000 is very very strong. That >>is not the point. The point is that it is missing some very critical features >>like 1) the ability to analyze in player player mode with engine analysis at the >>same time 2) a decent opening book editor. The one that CM6000 has is a joke. >>The first feature is so critical that not having it forces an incredible waste >>of time changing modes whenever you change sides in analysis or do take back >>moves in your manual analysis. Use a program that allows engine PV in player >>player mode and you will see what I mean. >>-- > >You are simple wrong here!!!! Your problem Korner is that you think that a >program has to have all of the features you want for it to be a good TOOL for >tournament players. That is FAULTY!!! thinking on your part. It Is a tool, >that serves it's purpose. That purpose being it is a unique and strong player >with it's own style. It serves me in helping to find new moves, it helps me in >my training method of playing not just one single program for practice but a >multitude of programs for practice(it is one of several i own). It doesn't need >to have a database, or opening book editor, because i have fritz and rebel and >Chessbase 7 end of story. It needs to do just one thing and that is play! So >because it SERVES it's purpose it is a great tool for the strong tournament >player. Further considering that most strong players have great databases, and >opening book editors etc. This means that one of their programs is the best in >regard to some feature such as database, thus that to some degree nullifys the >need for the databases of other programs. If you want a prog like CM to analyze >a game from some other progs database it may take some work like converting to >pgn etc. but it can be done. Bottom line CM does what i need it to do!! you >can get mad if you want to, sorry tough titty said the kitty. > >R. Takata >USCF Life Master >Fide Master I FULLY agree with all you said, which is the point I have been trying to get across. When newer versions of chessbase and fritz come out. The tournament player will get them, because they have a strong engine and good database. Maybe they all do follow KK thinking and only play the programs that have a good database attached to it, and thus limit themselves to the strength and style of play of other programs. Maybe why Anand got beaten by Rebel 10. Maybe he only used Chessbase or fritz for his computer playing and database. And thus got beaten by another program which he did not know about. That is maybe stretching the truth. But if KK had his way, I think the tournament chess player would never touch CM6K. I think the Strong and Tournament player would want to play as many a strong programs as he can get his hands on. And thus would make CM6K a program for the tournament player. Which Brings up another point off hand. Why is CM6K on the Gambitsoft site under the Master column and not Grandmaster which includes some programs worse than CM6K in my opinion in both strength and features.
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