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Subject: Re: Is SPEC a bad test organisation according to Hyatt?

Author: Frank E. Oldham

Date: 21:26:24 03/01/04

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On March 01, 2004 at 22:53:39, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On March 01, 2004 at 18:57:03, Frank E. Oldham wrote:
>
>>On March 01, 2004 at 18:05:55, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>So all we know it's a slow CPU, that's all. How slow is not clear simply.
>>>
>>
>>Slow? It's not quite up to opteron levels, but with the poor gcc compiler (e.g.,
>>won't pass bitboard in a register) I get:
>>
>>crafty19.10 w/futility bench
>>
>>1 x 2GHz G5
>>Total nodes: 89942714
>>Raw nodes per second: 1249204
>>Total elapsed time: 72
>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 8.888889
>>
>>
>>2 x 2GHz G5
>>Total nodes: 83479388
>>Raw nodes per second: 2455276
>>Total elapsed time: 34
>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 18.823529
>>
>>Frank
>
>The testsets they benchmarked publicly the G5, they used GCC for the x86
>hardware. Then they claimed victory. Later those tests were compiled by decent
>compilers and eated that G5 alive.
>
>Anyhow, you won't find the G5.
>
>Bob already got 2.2+ Mln nps at his outdated dual Xeon 2.8Ghz by the way.
>
>I get 1.2MLN nps at my old K7 MP2600 already single cpu.
>
>There is 3.2Ghz Xeons and of course new generation Nocona and Opterons are there
>now. Try a dual opteron with pathscale compiler and crafty and you'll see.
>
>Power4 at 1.7Ghz is nowhere impressive:
>
>http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu2000/results/res2004q1/cpu2000-20040126-02725.html
>
>This despite using unified caches.
>
>Your G5 is such a cpu with less cache that's all.
>
>What is your RAM and RAM timings?

Just 512MB (PC3200 - CL3) straight from Apple.
I'd like to have a dual opteron but they're pretty expensive :-)
Crafty benefits from the 970's single-instruction FirstOne() -- but gcc 3.3
doesn't generate
very good code yet -- supposedly the IBM compiler(s) are better (but a bit
expensive).
Frank



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