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Subject: Re: Is SPEC a bad test organisation according to Hyatt?

Author: Andreas Guettinger

Date: 01:38:43 03/02/04

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On March 01, 2004 at 22:59:38, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On March 01, 2004 at 18:45:34, Andreas Guettinger wrote:
>
>>On March 01, 2004 at 18:05:55, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>That apple show was the show of a fool.
>>>
>>>If i remember well they first compiled with GCC at x86 hardware a few
>>>benchmarks.
>>>
>>>Then they compared that with gcc at the G5.
>>>
>>>Real sick compare.
>>>
>>>So all we know it's a slow CPU, that's all. How slow is not clear simply.
>>>
>>
>>LOL- You say some thing about exagerating. :))
>>
>>I think what he meant is actual data somebody posted some days ago:
>>
>>>machine is dual 2GHz Powermac G5
>>>
>>>wit default hash, here's results for 1 and 2 cpus
>>>=============================================
>>>Crafty v19.10 (1 cpus)
>>>
>>>White(1): bench
>>>...Total nodes: 89942714
>>>Raw nodes per second: 1249204
>>>Total elapsed time: 72
>>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 8.888889
>>>=============================================
>>>Crafty v19.10 (1 cpus)
>>>
>>>White(1): mt=2
>>>max threads set to 2
>>>White(1): bench
>>>...
>>>Total nodes: 83479388
>>>Raw nodes per second: 2455276
>>>Total elapsed time: 34
>>>SMP time-to-ply measurement: 18.823529
>>>=============================================
>>
>>
>>Not as good as an Athlon64 3200, I agree, but nevertheless.
>>
>>Ruffian does over 1.6MNPS on a single G5 2Ghz and it's optimized for G5.
>>Do you really think PerOla would show up with a G5 for CCT6 if the G5 is a slow
>>CPU.
>>
>>regards
>>Andy
>
>??
>
>Now compare with Opteron with 400Mhz RAM. Blows this cpu away left and right!
>
>I hope you realize the weakest chain is memory latency. Both crafty and that
>ruffian are way too memory oriented. G5 trivially is good there, just like
>Opteron with its on die memory controller.
>
>In 2005 this G5 is still clocked at 2Ghz. Opteron moves by end 2004 to 0.09 and
>will hit way higher clockrates.

Yes? You don't hit the newspapers frequently. Apple is already _selling_ 90 nm
versions of it's 2 Ghz G5 chips in the new Xserve G5.

http://a192.g.akamai.net/7/192/51/0c5b0d0ef0f03b/www.apple.com/server/pdfs/L301323A_XserveG5_TO.pdf

A 2.5 Ghz version of this chips was already presented by IBM and 2.5 Ghz
PowerMacs are just some weeks away.

regards
Andy



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