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Subject: Re: S8 and Deep Position Analysis

Author: Geert van der Wulp

Date: 02:23:52 03/02/04

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On March 02, 2004 at 05:19:52, martin fierz wrote:

>On March 01, 2004 at 14:40:29, Stephen Ham wrote:
>
>>On March 01, 2004 at 14:06:15, William Penn wrote:
>>
>>>Due to a unique bug in Shredder 7 and Shredder 8, its analysis is unreliable.
>>>Only the first move can be trusted. Forget the rest! Sometimes it's OK, but
>>>often it's garbage, or somewhere in-between. If you want reliable analysis,
>>>choose a different engine (not Shredder).
>>>WP
>>
>>Dear William,
>>
>>I suspect that you misread my post. Yes, in Shredder 7 & 8, only the PV is
>>reliable. This is true for some other engines too. For example, I noticed this
>>in my matches with Friz 6a and Nimzo 7.32.
>>(http://www.correspondencechess.com/campbell/ham/ham.htm). But the a-pawn losing
>>move that was second in move-ordering was the PV of the second line of the move
>>ordering sequence.
>>
>>All the best,
>>Stephen
>
>hi stephen
>
>while i understand what you want to say, you are not saying it correctly.
>the PV is the whole line given by shredder. the first move of the PV is always
>correct, the entire rest of the PV *can* be garbage but must not.
>
>so your statemtent "only the PV is reliable" is totally wrong, but i think
>that's because you use PV in the sense of "first move of PV" - but since you're
>the only one who does this, it will lead to confusion :-)
>
>cheers
>  martin

Martin,

Maybe technically speaking it was not completely right, but SOMEHOW you
understood what Stephen meant. I think it was very clear, even though I do not
own or use S8.

Regards,

Geert



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