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Subject: Re: Tournament Format for WCCC 2004, 11 rounds Swiss - standard or delayed?

Author: Geert van der Wulp

Date: 08:07:13 03/02/04

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On March 02, 2004 at 10:38:01, Omid David Tabibi wrote:

>On March 02, 2004 at 09:57:21, Geert van der Wulp wrote:
>
>>On March 02, 2004 at 09:53:15, Omid David Tabibi wrote:
>>
>>>Based on the feedback to the previous thread
>>>(http://talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?352100), it seems that the majority
>>>prefer 11 rounds Swiss to the knockout with reentry option.
>>>
>>>Gerd Isenberg suggested an interesting modification to standard Swiss:
>>>
>>>--------
>>>http://talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?352264
>>>
>>>What about following slightly modified [Swiss system], a kind of "delayed" swiss
>>>system to keep the tension a bit longer?
>>>
>>>For the first (4-6) rounds playing swiss with two about equal strong groups with
>>>about (even) quantity and quality, eg.
>>>(1,4,5,8,9,12,13,16)<->(2,3,6,7,10,11,14,15) or similar.
>>>
>>>Then reunion both groups and continue with standard swiss, and there are still
>>>some thrilling rounds to go.
>>>--------
>>>
>>>In other words, a simple 11 rounds Swiss, but keeping some stronger pairings for
>>>the later rounds.
>>>
>>>What do you think would be better? Standard 11 rounds Swiss (like in Graz WCCC),
>>>or the delayed Swiss as suggested by Gerd?
>>
>>Sounds interesting, this delayed Swiss, but how exactly do you want to rank the
>>programs in the first place?
>
>We can use the results of the previous WCCC for the ranking. But since we are
>not speaking of a knockout, the ranking won't be critical. This delayed system
>will only make the tournament more exciting by leaving some of the critical
>matches to the later rounds, but practically it won't be much different from a
>standard 11 rounds Swiss.

No No, this is not true. If one of the groups is considerably stronger than
another, then the procedure seems not to be really fair to me. The problem is
that it is only clear at the end of your tournament what is strong and what is
"weak". (Of course we are talking about WCCC, so weak is only relative)

Regards,

Geert
>
>
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Geert



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